ILLINIShox24
Orange Krush '04 & '05
Did someone mention him as a reclass to 2023 possibility?
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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Punesguy
- Ft. Collins, CO
Against a gritty 6-18 Central Michigan squad. I think Brad and the crew can do better!
Dr Copejam
- The Rock
We haven’t heard much about a possible return for Adam Miller. Is his relationship with Underwood really not as close as “advertised” or are there simply better players that are options?
Vander Plas shoots a pretty respectable percentage from 3. A big that can stretch the floor a bit would be a solid addition imo.
I think he'd be a great replacement for Jake, if he leaves.
How different is it really compared to coaches hopping from one job to another? Heck even comparing it job hopping for the rest of us. Most people do it because they are unhappy in their current situation or want to be compensated more fairly. How is that different than kids leaving because of not liking coaches (management/coworkers/job duties) or wanting more playing time (money/benefits). I’d argue it’s actually healthier to challenge authority/norms and move on if your ideologies don’t match up, rather than sticking around and putting up with crap.
I’d say a freer market for college athletes to transfer sets them up better for the real world rather than being chained to a school. It’s a tale as old as time—older generations bucking change from younger ones because of some antiquated philosophies. Just because they are young adults shouldn’t mean they don’t get the same privileges as their coaches and peers in the real world.
Oh and it’s not like players aren’t committed to staying at a school that doesn’t give them major minutes. College athletes are going to be just fine.
.338 doesn't exactly move the needle for me. Other teams will let him shoot it at that %. I'd be OK with him for his passing and decent rebounding, but not if he expects to start over Coleman. As a rotation guy/backup power forward, I'd like him. But I bet he'd rather go somewhere he could start.
Not gonna be sad if we miss out on this one.
Not trying to be snarky here - have you ever changed jobs in your career? How does this situation with players transferring differ from that choice? Is it the right idea to stick around at a job with a pretty clear ceiling when you could jump to a company/team that can use your skills better?
There is plenty of room for debate on how much college sports are akin to jobs but I think they are more similar than many old schoolers would like to admit.
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Who says he couldn't start? I don't believe anyone should be promised a starting role. You come in and compete, and the best guys play. I know a lot of folks are enamored with Hawkins' potential, but at some point you have to be judged by how you are playing now. Coleman struggled from the 3, struggled from the FT line, and often struggled on defense. Yes, he has potential. Yes, he had some very good games. He also disappeared at times, and was an offensive liability at times.
I see Hawkins being pushed or passed as a good thing for Illini basketball. You don't grow much when you are comfortable. Hawkins could be a very good player in this league, but after 2 seasons, he hasn't proven he can produce consistently. I see no reason he should expect to be handed a starting role.
KBLEE
- Montgomery, IL
I'm not trying to say he *can't* start. I'm saying I think Coleman Hawkins will be better than Ben Vander Plas next season and will start if they're on the same roster.
Agreed competition can be a good thing. Coleman definitely struggled at times, but he was also our best non-Kofi player down the stretch last year, IMO.
drsmitty74
- Rochester
Hope he does well.
Big Jack
- Decatur
To me, I hoped Podz becoming a poor man's Goode, i.e., you probably need to wait until the Junior year to fully develop but it is useful to have a guy like that on the bench. But obviously that's not his inspiration and I understand.
That's a big assumption to make at this point. If true, we will be alright. Trust in Underwood.
I’d prefer the staff to focus on and invest in CH’s development, given the high praise on his ceiling. The kid was a risk to leave. Loyalty is a two way street.
You teach young athletes that working hard and competing is how you grow into a fierce competitor but when you get to this level of athletics or business the individual needs to do what’s best for the individual because everything is lip service because changes in situations are a guarantee and should be expected. Upper management for years has pushed your narrative to keep people suppressed and content because turnover is expensive and wastes time.
To all the young athletes and professionals, go get yours at all costs but don’t burn bridges in the process.
It's objectively not a big deal at all lol. Seems like a good kid, but he just isn't good enough to get minutes for Illinois. That's fine; let him go thrive at a smaller school like Omar Payne is looking to do at Jacksonville.
I assume Payne has to sit since he used a free transfer last year?
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