ILLINIShox24
Orange Krush '04 & '05
Did someone mention him as a reclass to 2023 possibility?
Did someone mention him as a reclass to 2023 possibility?
Name checks out...Agreed, this is going to become the new norm. My biggest concern for these young men and women that are transferring is the outlook on life. I've always worked on the ideology that if I'm not good enough for something, I work harder, and if that isn't enough, wait my time. What exactly are we teaching/allowing? "If things aren't the way I want them to be, I'll just pick up my ball and go somewhere else." I wish they would have just changed NIL and left transfer the way it was, sit a year.
Best of luck to Podz and Curbelo, hope they prosper and do great things in all aspects of life
Against a gritty 6-18 Central Michigan squad. I think Brad and the crew can do better!Such a gifted passer
I think he'd be a great replacement for Jake, if he leaves.Such a gifted passer
How different is it really compared to coaches hopping from one job to another? Heck even comparing it job hopping for the rest of us. Most people do it because they are unhappy in their current situation or want to be compensated more fairly. How is that different than kids leaving because of not liking coaches (management/coworkers/job duties) or wanting more playing time (money/benefits). I’d argue it’s actually healthier to challenge authority/norms and move on if your ideologies don’t match up, rather than sticking around and putting up with crap.Agreed, this is going to become the new norm. My biggest concern for these young men and women that are transferring is the outlook on life. I've always worked on the ideology that if I'm not good enough for something, I work harder, and if that isn't enough, wait my time. What exactly are we teaching/allowing? "If things aren't the way I want them to be, I'll just pick up my ball and go somewhere else." I wish they would have just changed NIL and left transfer the way it was, sit a year.
Best of luck to Podz and Curbelo, hope they prosper and do great things in all aspects of life
.338 doesn't exactly move the needle for me. Other teams will let him shoot it at that %. I'd be OK with him for his passing and decent rebounding, but not if he expects to start over Coleman. As a rotation guy/backup power forward, I'd like him. But I bet he'd rather go somewhere he could start.Vander Plas shoots a pretty respectable percentage from 3. A big that can stretch the floor a bit would be a solid addition imo.
Not trying to be snarky here - have you ever changed jobs in your career? How does this situation with players transferring differ from that choice? Is it the right idea to stick around at a job with a pretty clear ceiling when you could jump to a company/team that can use your skills better?Agreed, this is going to become the new norm. My biggest concern for these young men and women that are transferring is the outlook on life. I've always worked on the ideology that if I'm not good enough for something, I work harder, and if that isn't enough, wait my time. What exactly are we teaching/allowing? "If things aren't the way I want them to be, I'll just pick up my ball and go somewhere else." I wish they would have just changed NIL and left transfer the way it was, sit a year.
I knew it!It's not accurate. They are inflating his stats. The accurate number is 3.057 per game.
Brb changing my kids names to aaaaaaaaronAlphabetically, this kid is last on my recruiting priority list, tbh.
Who says he couldn't start? I don't believe anyone should be promised a starting role. You come in and compete, and the best guys play. I know a lot of folks are enamored with Hawkins' potential, but at some point you have to be judged by how you are playing now. Coleman struggled from the 3, struggled from the FT line, and often struggled on defense. Yes, he has potential. Yes, he had some very good games. He also disappeared at times, and was an offensive liability at times..338 doesn't exactly move the needle for me. Other teams will let him shoot it at that %. I'd be OK with him for his passing and decent rebounding, but not if he expects to start over Coleman. As a rotation guy/backup power forward, I'd like him. But I bet he'd rather go somewhere he could start.
Not gonna be sad if we miss out on this one.
Brb changing my kids names to aaaaaaaaron
Brb changing my kids names to aaaaaaaaron
I'm not trying to say he *can't* start. I'm saying I think Coleman Hawkins will be better than Ben Vander Plas next season and will start if they're on the same roster.Who says he couldn't start? I don't believe anyone should be promised a starting role. You come in and compete, and the best guys play. I know a lot of folks are enamored with Hawkins' potential, but at some point you have to be judged by how you are playing now. Coleman struggled from the 3, struggled from the FT line, and often struggled on defense. Yes, he has potential. Yes, he had some very good games. He also disappeared at times, and was an offensive liability at times.
I see Hawkins being pushed or passed as a good thing for Illini basketball. You don't grow much when you are comfortable. Hawkins could be a very good player in this league, but after 2 seasons, he hasn't proven he can produce consistently. I see no reason he should expect to be handed a starting role.
Boy, if TSJ is out because he knows Kofi is out, THAT will be a really tough momentum swing….
To me, I hoped Podz becoming a poor man's Goode, i.e., you probably need to wait until the Junior year to fully develop but it is useful to have a guy like that on the bench. But obviously that's not his inspiration and I understand.Podz isn't quite as versatile as the other guys on the roster IMO. RJ and Goode have more length and can play the 2-4 if needed. Podz can really only play the 2. He doesn't have the size to play bigger or the handles and extincts to be a PG. The only way he was going to see the court is if he was an elite scorer/shooter. Kind of like Plummer.
And even then...I'm not sure Plummer would get much playing time on next year's team....
To me, I hoped Podz becoming a poor man's Goode, i.e., you probably need to wait until the Junior year to fully develop but it is useful to have a guy like that on the bench. But obviously that's not his inspiration and I understand.
That's a big assumption to make at this point. If true, we will be alright. Trust in Underwood.
I’d prefer the staff to focus on and invest in CH’s development, given the high praise on his ceiling. The kid was a risk to leave. Loyalty is a two way street.I watched a few of their games. Kid is a really good player. He and Jason Preston were a really dynamic P&R combo. I didn't see much he couldn't do offensively.
No idea what the staff's interest level is in him, but I think he would really push Hawkins for minutes.
You teach young athletes that working hard and competing is how you grow into a fierce competitor but when you get to this level of athletics or business the individual needs to do what’s best for the individual because everything is lip service because changes in situations are a guarantee and should be expected. Upper management for years has pushed your narrative to keep people suppressed and content because turnover is expensive and wastes time.Agreed, this is going to become the new norm. My biggest concern for these young men and women that are transferring is the outlook on life. I've always worked on the ideology that if I'm not good enough for something, I work harder, and if that isn't enough, wait my time. What exactly are we teaching/allowing? "If things aren't the way I want them to be, I'll just pick up my ball and go somewhere else." I wish they would have just changed NIL and left transfer the way it was, sit a year.
Best of luck to Podz and Curbelo, hope they prosper and do great things in all aspects of life
It's objectively not a big deal at all lol. Seems like a good kid, but he just isn't good enough to get minutes for Illinois. That's fine; let him go thrive at a smaller school like Omar Payne is looking to do at Jacksonville.I don't think Podz leaving is a big deal. Wish him well but he was never going to do much at Illinois. Illinois can now sign a veteran point guard that will allow Clark and Epps to develop a bit.