Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Question more generally about transferring: With the 1 free transfer rule taking effect, do players still get a free transfer if they have graduated as well?

By way of example: Jimmy's freshman year is at school 1. Transfers after to school 2. This is his free transfer, no sit out year. He plays 2 and redshirts one (let's say an injury). He graduates and wants to transfer. Is he eligible to play immediately as a grad transfer? Or is his one free transfer done and the grad transfer rule is now irrelevant? Thanks!
I am pretty sure that the no sit grad transfer rule is always available.
 
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Interesting line-ups. There's a ton of reason to be optimistic about the guard and wing spots --we have a lot of talent that's stepping in, and should have depth. A bit difficult to envision the frontcourt without Kofi. Maybe a bit more reminiscent of the flow and passing he had at SFA.
 
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Could Lieb give you a Freshman year Coleman Hawkins-like 157 minutes (25/31 GP, 6.3 MPG in those 25 GP) during the season? Just for another big body that can pick up some fouls (listed at 220 as a Sophomore, should continue to put on more weight so maybe 230 next season).
 
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Question more generally about transferring: With the 1 free transfer rule taking effect, do players still get a free transfer if they have graduated as well?

By way of example: Jimmy's freshman year is at school 1. Transfers after to school 2. This is his free transfer, no sit out year. He plays 2 and redshirts one (let's say an injury). He graduates and wants to transfer. Is he eligible to play immediately as a grad transfer? Or is his one free transfer done and the grad transfer rule is now irrelevant? Thanks!
I think the grad transfer waiver still applies even if a player previously used a transfer waiver. See JCL. He appears to have used a transfer redshirt, a medical redshirt, a regular transfer waiver, and a graduate transfer waiver (for a super senior season).

Mark Smith used an undergrad transfer waiver, albeit a different one, and a graduate transfer waiver.
 
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blackdog

Champaign
Could Lieb give you a Freshman year Coleman Hawkins-like 157 minutes (25/31 GP, 6.3 MPG in those 25 GP) during the season? Just for another big body that can pick up some fouls (listed at 220 as a Sophomore, should continue to put on more weight so maybe 230 next season).

I just don't see it from Lieb. Yes he's tall but he's so limited athletically that it's almost more a liability to have him out there. He really struggles to stay in front of his guy on D and even with added weight still gets bodied a lot.
 
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Could Lieb give you a Freshman year Coleman Hawkins-like 157 minutes (25/31 GP, 6.3 MPG in those 25 GP) during the season? Just for another big body that can pick up some fouls (listed at 220 as a Sophomore, should continue to put on more weight so maybe 230 next season).
If they don't add any bigs, they may have to depend on real Lieb minutes.

Which is why I'm 99% sure they'll add transfer big(s).
 
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Interesting line-ups. There's a ton of reason to be optimistic about the guard and wing spots --we have a lot of talent that's stepping in, and should have depth. A bit difficult to envision the frontcourt without Kofi. Maybe a bit more reminiscent of the flow and passing he had at SFA.

I was wondering if they were thinking of returning to some version of that. Spread offense? Pinch post?

With Hawkins and Dainja; they have 2 bigs who can handle and pass. Dainja can shoot.
 
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I just saw Mayer wandering the streets of Chicago. What was the news?
Baylor kicked him out of university housing and sent him with a one way ticket to Illinois. Poor kid is homeless now, just wandering around the City aimlessly. At least that’s my understanding.
 
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If Coleman starts at the 5, he won't be there long. Foul trouble will get him limited minutes. He needs to be a stretch 4 crashing the glass from outside in. They are going to have to play fast and use ball denial down low against bigger opponents. I wish we could run more full court press. Long, quick athletes without a plodding big man will run teams off the court if they do that.
 
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Just by the stats Nance looks better in every way, he's taller:

Pts, Rbs, Asts, Blks, FG, 3pt, FT
Nance: 14.6, 6.5, 2.7, 1.1, 49.7%, 45.2%, 76.8%
Maher: 9.8, 5.0, 1.0, 0.8, 40.9%, 32.4%, 70.0%

Now Maher had a much better team, so you could say he would have scored more, rebounded more, etc on a weaker team. Probably true, but the shooting percentages wouldn't necessarily change. If anything they could be worse because you'd get more defensive focus. Side note, Nance averaged 4 more minutes per game.

I'm definitely on team Nance.

It's also important to note Maher's numbers regressed this season. Shot 45% from 2 and 40% from 3 as a Junior. Not exactly sure, I didn't watch much of Baylor this season.
 
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I was wondering if they were thinking of returning to some version of that. Spread offense? Pinch post?

With Hawkins and Dainja; they have 2 bigs who can handle and pass. Dainja can shoot.
So can Hawkins. He just needs more confidence.
 
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Am I the only one high on Luke Goode? I know he's no Bryce Hopkins and demands to start at the 2... But seriously I saw a lot from him last year... And with his size and shooting ability I think he's a got potential to be a 12 ppg+ scorer
I think people like Goode, though maybe not as high on him as you seem to be. He does have his physical limitations. He’s a good shooter and I could see him having some games of 12 points or maybe even more, but I don’t see him averaging 12 ppg next year. I’d even go as far to say that if he averages 12 a game next year then the season is going as well as we hoped. But I think he’ll give us some nice minutes this year and wouldn’t be surprised if he is an integral part in some wins
 
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I do think we are severely underrating Epps. I think he’s the spark plug off the bench this year. I could see him getting 18-25 minutes.
It's quite possible that we are underrating a number of incoming freshmen although it is not clear who and by how much. It's also possible that we are all drunk on orange Kool-Aid. In any case, I am really excited about this incoming class and expect one or more of them to be big contributors right away. It's always difficult to project based on highlight tapes as you need to know the level of all of the participants. They will take a big step up in competition. The biggest concern will be how well they play defense. If they can get that right ..... look out!
 
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pruman91

Paducah, Ky
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I'm sitting here at home watching the Cardinals -Royals game , drinking a Tito's vodka & lemonade drink , had a gummy bear and just took a toke off of the Cheese & Chong vape pen..........enjoying life , in general , and enjoying the sights of NL # 3 walking around in her birthday suit doing some household chores when i stumble across the starting 5 options inside this wonderful daily recruiting thread ......it's what makes my world go around.....

The posts advocating this starting 5 or that starting 5 brings so much amusement to my soul as I commend my Illini fanatical bros in their ingenuity in coming up with the various lineups .........What I find humorous is the ideas being posted without any idea of what roster we will actually end up with .....

but with that in mind , i have to weight in with my way to early starting 5 ........

Sky
Epps
R J
Cohawk
Dain

Whoa ..............................how can you have 2 frosh in the starting lineup pru ?????........some might say that.........whoa , are you crazy ??..............many have already asked that of me numerous times before and I always answer , no , I'm just an insane Illini fanatic and I actually think we NEED to start both Sky and Epps as they both are so talented and bring so much energy in this transitional season for the Illini...........when Epps won that 1-1 match for that trophy that told me all I need to know about him ......we need his skills on the court and teaming him with Sky will alleviate the thoughts of many past slow starts to a game.....

I'm feeling no pain right now and that makes me happy.........reading the different thoughts regarding the beloved makes me happy also as it tells me we are back as a force in college BB and will be a tough team this coming season........

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I think people like Goode, though maybe not as high on him as you seem to be. He does have his physical limitations. He’s a good shooter and I could see him having some games of 12 points or maybe even more, but I don’t see him averaging 12 ppg next year. I’d even go as far to say that if he averages 12 a game next year then the season is going as well as we hoped. But I think he’ll give us some nice minutes this year and wouldn’t be surprised if he is an integral part in some wins
Fair enough and I should have clarified I don't expect him to get 12ppg next year.. Maybe as a junior and definitely by senior year
 
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Illin618

I forgot the last i in my username
Southern IL
I think Ant Wright is just throwing crap at the walls of the SFC at this point - hoping something will stick when summer comes around and then will take credit for reporting first... lol
 
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Am I the only one high on Luke Goode? I know he's no Bryce Hopkins and demands to start at the 2... But seriously I saw a lot from him last year... And with his size and shooting ability I think he's a got potential to be a 12 ppg+ scorer
I'm also high on Goode, though I think the discussion here (and nitpicks of him) have been less about his offense and more his defense. If he can put on another 15 lbs of muscle, I think he'd be a really good 4 down the road (he already played pretty well in his spot minutes there this year).
 
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