Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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I have to agree with LadyLoyalty on this one. While neither of these posts offend me personally, I can certainly see how it can create an uncomfortable and perhaps hostile environment. I come here for illini discourse (and occasional cottage cheese talk), but I would leave if the board ventured into political talk. It’s not unreasonable to ask that we discontinue the path toward soft core porn.

Wait.... girls in bikinis is trending toward soft core porn?

The Simpsons Bikini GIF
 
#203      
I have to agree with LadyLoyalty on this one. While neither of these posts offend me personally, I can certainly see how it can create an uncomfortable and perhaps hostile environment. I come here for illini discourse (and occasional cottage cheese talk), but I would leave if the board ventured into political talk. It’s not unreasonable to ask that we discontinue the path toward soft core porn.
people, pru is not a poster that is going to bring a lot of substance to his posts. He posts for comedy. So if bikini girls offend you, just hit ignore and you won't see it anymore. It's very simple to do. I see people bragging on here about all the people they've ignored as if that's an accomplishment, Just be like them and ignore something you don't like, you're not going to miss a big scoop.

I enjoy bikini girls, but if that means we then have to have banana smugglers, I say ban it. Ban it all.
 
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I have to agree with LadyLoyalty on this one. While neither of these posts offend me personally, I can certainly see how it can create an uncomfortable and perhaps hostile environment. I come here for illini discourse (and occasional cottage cheese talk), but I would leave if the board ventured into political talk. It’s not unreasonable to ask that we discontinue the path toward soft core porn.
If it offends you, scroll past. You can even hit the ignore button if a certain poster continually offends you.

It offends me that you would propose to edit what others can see. One of the greatest challenges facing our nation today is the position that if something offends one person, it should be removed. The First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech, even if it is offensive. Private boards like Loyalty are moderated as a private entity, not typically subject to the Constitution within certain limits (and Dan is certainly forward leaning on moderatinh Loyalty). But I think Dan has done a good job of balancing free speech and maintaining decorum. If he's not objected to Pru's posts up to now, I would take that as a de facto approval of the post if it survives the first day.

I understand the concept that something might might be considered offensive and make some people uncomfortable. If it offends someone, that person can walk away freely without fault nor I'll will from the other members here.
 
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Rocket City Illini

Belleville, IL
If you live in the metro east this is an event to keep your eye on. Wouldn't surprise me if the next couple years this event blows up.


Metro East resident here. I’m down. Look for a dorky middle aged guy sporting Illini clothing.

When is it?
 
#208      

texillwek

🔶🔹🔸🔷
I have asked this poster and the moderator repeatedly to please stop the unnecessary and over sexualized posts of women on this college recruiting website. It only enforces the toxic male culture that makes female fans feel uncomfortable and objectified on Loyalty. So, if you can’t beat them… let’s see how these fly. Unnecessary? Absolutely. Inappropriate? You bet. I’ll also be curious to see how fast these/I get banned versus the female photos left alone. Be better.

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I have asked this poster and the moderator repeatedly to please stop the unnecessary and over sexualized posts of women on this college recruiting website. It only enforces the toxic male culture that makes female fans feel uncomfortable and objectified on Loyalty. So, if you can’t beat them… let’s see how these fly. Unnecessary? Absolutely. Inappropriate? You bet. I’ll also be curious to see how fast these/I get banned versus the female photos left alone. Be better.
I don't understand why you are trying to regulate what everyone else sees, approves, or disapproves of on this forum.

Every user has the ability to ignore any poster that they chose to, for whatever reason that they choose. Why do you choose to continue to view these posts that you deem offending, or personally violating, or whatever, and not click the ignore button?

These posts are clearly not outside of the realm of what liberalism, and tolerance would/should accept (or ignore), in my opinion.
 
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people, pru is not a poster that is going to bring a lot of substance to his posts. He posts for comedy. So if bikini girls offend you, just hit ignore and you won't see it anymore. It's very simple to do. I see people bragging on here about all the people they've ignored as if that's an accomplishment, Just be like them and ignore something you don't like, you're not going to miss a big scoop.

I enjoy bikini girls, but if that means we then have to have banana smugglers, I say ban it. Ban it all.
Yeah, you can ignore pru if not your cup of tea - he is like a cross between Timothy Leary and Hugh Hefner on social security.

But do so at your own risk of missing out on the commentary about the refs DJ Baldhead and Kelly Fluffer.
 
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One meaning of tolerance is the willingness or ability to put up with or have patience with views or behavior that one does not appreciate.

I don't agree with a lot of the direction NCAA is moving, but I have to tolerate it or move on.

Obviously, some behaviors can't be tolerated. It is is up to reasonable people to decide which ones.
 
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If it offends you, scroll past. You can even hit the ignore button if a certain poster continually offends you.

It offends me that you would propose to edit what others can see. One of the greatest challenges facing our nation today is the position that if something offends one person, it should be removed. The First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech, even if it is offensive. Private boards like Loyalty are moderated as a private entity, not typically subject to the Constitution within certain limits (and Dan is certainly forward leaning on moderatinh Loyalty). But I think Dan has done a good job of balancing free speech and maintaining decorum. If he's not objected to Pru's posts up to now, I would take that as a de facto approval of the post if it survives the first day.

I understand the concept that something might might be considered offensive and make some people uncomfortable. If it offends someone, that person can walk away freely without fault nor ill will from the other members here.
Idk if this needs to necessarily be a free speech thing — If someone came on here with a bunch of posts about Duke Basketball, they’d get removed. Same for, like, Indiana volleyball. Why? That’s irrelevant to the discussion here.

I’m cool with removing random gifs of ladies in bikinis. I’m also cool with removing cottage cheese posts… can we just talk about basketball?
 
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.... But I think Dan has done a good job of balancing free speech and maintaining decorum. If he's not objected to Pru's posts up to now, I would take that as a de facto approval of the post if it survives the first day.
Without any judgement on the bikini posts: This is faulty logic.

Most people take the path of least resistance most of the time. It doesn't not mean they agree with it. It means they don't think it is worth the hassle to do otherwise. Companies use this to great effect. E.g. Google paying Apple Billions to be the default search engine on Apple products. People use this every day. When asking a question, they shift the burden of proof to make it less likely that others, who may object, will step forward. E.g. "Can anyone give reasons to not do X" vs. "Can anyone give reasons to do X". It makes a huge difference in how the meetings flow.

Not removing the bikini posts has until now been the path of least resistance. I don't know if this thread will change that.
 
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I don't understand why you are trying to regulate what everyone else sees, approves, or disapproves of on this forum.

Every user has the ability to ignore any poster that they chose to, for whatever reason that they choose. Why do you choose to continue to view these posts that you deem offending, or personally violating, or whatever, and not click the ignore button?

These posts are clearly not outside of the realm of what liberalism, and tolerance would/should accept (or ignore), in my opinion.
Locker room talk, right? 🙃🙃🙃

Weird flex with the liberal comment, considering the other side is the most easily offended blunderbusses. But do go on…
 
#221      
I have to agree with LadyLoyalty on this one. While neither of these posts offend me personally, I can certainly see how it can create an uncomfortable and perhaps hostile environment. I come here for illini discourse (and occasional cottage cheese talk), but I would leave if the board ventured into political talk. It’s not unreasonable to ask that we discontinue the path toward soft core porn.
Agreed. I want to be able to pull this site up at work and not have to worry about someone seeing my screen
 
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If it offends you, scroll past. You can even hit the ignore button if a certain poster continually offends you.

It offends me that you would propose to edit what others can see. One of the greatest challenges facing our nation today is the position that if something offends one person, it should be removed. The First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech, even if it is offensive. Private boards like Loyalty are moderated as a private entity, not typically subject to the Constitution within certain limits (and Dan is certainly forward leaning on moderatinh Loyalty). But I think Dan has done a good job of balancing free speech and maintaining decorum. If he's not objected to Pru's posts up to now, I would take that as a de facto approval of the post if it survives the first day.

I understand the concept that something might might be considered offensive and make some people uncomfortable. If it offends someone, that person can walk away freely without fault nor ill will from the other members here.
There are problems with your argument. Words that are offensive to one person are almost always going to be offensive to a larger group, and due to inequality that group may not have the opportunity or freedom to speak up and defend themselves, nor should they just have to walk away from an offensive person in the way you speak.

The “greatest challenge facing our nation” isn’t offending one person, it’s that people feel entitled to spew hate and expect to hide behind the 1st Amendment. The framers of the Constitution had no way to anticipate current technology so there’s no way they could have anticipated that it would be possible for one person to say hateful and offensive things on platforms that would reach millions.

This is my unpopular opinion, but the 1st Amendment should be repealed and revised to account for the internet and social media. It should be illegal to post or display offensive or untrue statements in public or on the internet. Anything even resembling support for hate groups should be banned from public unless it’s in a museum and contextualized. Allowing this to go on as long as it has is no different than letting someone yell fire in public or make bomb threats, only its been going on for the last 150 years.

All you have to do is look at the incredibly offensive statements in the last week made by a washed up TV star calling for the genocide of 6 million Jews. The system is broken. Fix it.
 
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AyoDos11

Southern Illinois
This is my unpopular opinion, but the 1st Amendment should be repealed and revised to account for the internet and social media. It should be illegal to post or display offensive or untrue statements in public or on the internet. Anything even resembling support for hate groups should be banned from public unless it’s in a museum and contextualized. Allowing this to go on as long as it has is no different than letting someone yell fire in public or make bomb threats, only its been going on for the last 150 years.

All you have to do is look at the incredibly offensive statements in the last week made by a washed up TV star calling for the genocide of 6 million Jews. The system is broken. Fix it.
This is a slippery slope. Literally everything ever said or posted on the internet can be claimed untrue or offensive to someone. I have a better idea: If you don't like something you see on the internet, you can ignore it.
 
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