Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

#126      
Didn’t expect the MLB Illinois fan camp discussion to go this far. For what it’s worth, growing up in Central Illinois, I noticed a pretty even 50/50 split between Cardinals and Cubs fans. Only knew one White Sox fan until I went to UofI and made friends with those from the suburbs.

I think the rivalry of Cards vs Cubs drove the fanbases to those two in the Central area, plus the local farm league affiliate would flip flop between being either a Cardinal or Cub-based team. So pros like Pujols and Baez made their starts helped. Also, Central and Southern areas I’ve noticed have a bit of disdain for Chicagoland that’s more political, so allegiance may help gravitate some to STL, maybe? Either way, Cardinals have a clear fan base in the state that though Chicago and Suburbs outnumber the population for the rest of the state, you take a trip down around Campus, Bloomington, Peoria, and south from there I would say you’d never think Cubs fans outnumber Cardinals fans.

I might add success helps a bit to build a fan base. Central Illinois had noticeable amounts of GB Packers fans (Bears rivalry maybe helped), Iowa fans (lot of rural and farm kids gravitated that way), and Colts fans.

Essentially, there’s a hodgepodge that isn’t necessarily statehood driven. Region drives it some too, among many factors. But again, Cardinals have a large presence in the Central Region, and it’s not necessarily a mystery.
Back in the 80s, the News-Gazette did a survey of baseball fans in Central Illinois. The results were:

48% Cubs
47% Cardinals
2% Dodgers
1% White Sox
2% Other

I was shocked to learn from a Chicago friend that, in the city of Chicago, the Cubs/White Sox rivalry stokes more passion than the Cubs/Cards rivalry. Growing up, I literally knew zero White Sox fans.
 
#127      
I'm getting off this thread because the amount of people that are taking this whole Benedict Arnold thing as more than satire is crazy!

People are free to choose to be fans of whoever they want. In the era of satellites that reach Antarctica...... people in Miami are fans of teams in Seattle. It's really ok.
I mean, except Ohio State. If someone is a fan of Ohio State, there’s something wrong with them for sure.
 
#129      
Counterpoint: He didn’t get kicked out of that game. In fact he’s been ejected from 1 total game he’s coached. Zero suspensions.

Like I said, I don’t like or condone his sideline actions, but personally I think he’s controlled crazy. He knows where the line is.
There is absolutely no way he should have been allowed to stay in this game. Part of this has to be a reputational thing. He should have been given a T and an ejection for making contact and staring down a ref. He lost control and didn't know who he was looking at here, if you take his word for it.
 
#130      
There is absolutely no way he should have been allowed to stay in this game. Part of this has to be a reputational thing. He should have been given a T and an ejection for making contact and staring down a ref. He lost control and didn't know who he was looking at here, if you take his word for it.
The refs understand time and circumstance. There's probably a 1% chance at most that he would've gotten a T there, right after the winning shot.

You just don't get to that level as a referee, if you have no pulse on situational awareness.
 
#132      
Counterpoint: He didn’t get kicked out of that game. In fact he’s been ejected from 1 total game he’s coached. Zero suspensions.

Like I said, I don’t like or condone his sideline actions, but personally I think he’s controlled crazy. He knows where the line is.
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And the fact that the Big East was too cowardly to suspend him for the Marquette incident does not mean he was in control of himself. It means the Big East is a joke and didn't want to harm UConn, whose tournament success is a source of income for the conference.
 
#134      
Okay, no Michigan on this list. Thank God!

Not only did scUM steal a national championship from us 37 years ago, they are now trying to steal my top 2 fav recruits!

I may have to get court side tickets to the next game we play at Michigan, so I can get decked out in Orange and tell them how scUMmy they are all game!

They play into that back-door recruiting with managers and agents too! And I'm sick out it 🤮

AJ Williams might turn into one of our most important recruitments outside of BPett.

Need to lock up Bentley now and have him reclass asap!

OA stealin Moussa K away from other programs in a couple weeks like Hurley just did with Bowman, would make me feel a lot better about where this is heading at the current moment...

Because you know what they say? You've got to keep up with the Jones' or the world... Or in this case, the Hurley's! (But not Bobby lol) 😵‍💫
 
#135      
The refs understand time and circumstance. There's probably a 1% chance at most that he would've gotten a T there, right after the winning shot.

You just don't get to that level as a referee, if you have no pulse on situational awareness.
I don't care about the moment. He put his forehead on an official and even did a slight headbutt while in that position. That is borderline assault.

I get not calling a T when a coach is yelling or something in that situation, but intentional bodily contact he 100% should be T'd up and thrown out.

He does the things he does because he has gotten away with it, not because he knows how to play the game or control himself.
 
#140      
Well, if lived in Detroit or Buffalo, would you chear for team Canada in the Olympics? Would you chear for the Buffalo Bills or the Toronto Argonauts?

In you live in El Paso, is Team Mexico or Team USA in soccer?

I don't know man....unless you were born in those countries, the Benedict Arnold conversation is real. :) :) :)

You know, Hammond, Indiana fans will have the same choice. Are you a Bears fan or a Colts fan? That's obviously the better comp.
Or maybe it’s the opposite dilemma: Why should fans from Illinois be Benedict Arnolds and be fans of an Indiana team?
 
#142      
Well that can't be bad
Agreed. Exciting. Although Arizona will be tough to beat.

Just like how we are far out ahead for Pettigrew. It’ll depend on Quinten, though. He already looks beefed up in the Ayo Vlog at Ubben. A sophomore Quentin is likely a pre-season all-B1G player his sophomore year. Could they start together? What happens if Vaaks doesn’t make the NBA draft too?
 
#148      
It looks like a pretty heavy emphasis is being placed on staying near home. There are a lot of southern schools on that list. KY and NC aren't that far. IL and BYU are the clear outsiders. So, do you stay near home, take the biggest bag, or go where you will learn the most and get the bigger bag later?
BYU rumored favorite, so I don't know if staying close to home for a year matters much.
 
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