Indiana 71, Illinois 68 Postgame

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pruman91
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Short-handed Illinois, without its leading scorer, falters late at Indiana

Matthew Mayer had 24 points, but Illinois couldn't get enough offense late.
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By ANDERSON KIMBALL
BLOOMINGTON, Ind. — Without its leading scorer, Illinois couldn’t muster enough buckets down the stretch.
The Illini led the entire second half until a pair of free throws by Jalen Hood-Schifino with 30 seconds left gave No. 14 Indiana a late lead and eventually 71-68 win over Illinois at Assembly Hall on Saturday.
“Two great basketball teams,” coach Brad Underwood said. “Two teams that in postseason play can make a long, long run.”

Terrence Shannon Jr. was out for the Illini with a concussion, but Matthew Mayer led the offense with 24 points.
 
#202      
Indiana Jones
john1952 said:
I am quite impressed with his ability to drive to the basket and laiy the ball off the glass, often from difficult angles.

I was wondering if he might make the all Big Ten freshman team?

Any thoughts?
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Who else is out there?

Sensabaugh, Hood-Schfino, Loyer, Smith, Essegian, Howard. Who am I missing?
 
#203      
TCTORNADO
john1952 said:
I am quite impressed with his ability to drive to the basket and laiy the ball off the glass, often from difficult angles.

I was wondering if he might make the all Big Ten freshman team?

Any thoughts?
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I'll take a shot, if season were to end today,

Brice Sensabaugh
Braden Smith
Jett Howard
Fletcher Loyer
Conner Essegian

With an outside chance...Epps, Bruce Thornton and Hood-Schifino
Still 5 or 6 games to go.
 
#205      
altgeld88
I avoided the postgame thread until this morning. Glad I did. I was proud of our team yesterday. The boys dominated for long stretches, seriously shorthanded, against an excellent IU team on its home floor. We had excellent ball movement. Was well-impressed (once again) with Ty, and didn't know he had been sick this past week. Wonderful to see Luke getting long stretches of tick and performing as he did. Just love that guy, and am grateful he's back and obviously clicking. MM was a monster, and he and CoHawk wiped the glass. We contained TJD fairly well early on, and forced him to pass out of coverage a lot. He was hard to stop late, however.

Am disappointed in the result, of course, but pleased with what the team showed on the road against a top team under the circumstances. They played a full 40 minutes yesterday, which they haven't done often (if at all.) A memorable BT game. Am hopeful these guys will keep up the wire-to-wire intensity. If they do, good(e) things will happen.
 
#206      
Aldy1955
FleetFeetIllini said:
TJD with a few more turnovers than last time and a few more missed shots. Still had a great game. 3s out of broken possessions really hurt, especially since we couldn't hit anything the second half.
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Long rebounds are killers -second chance basketball gods
 
#207      
BBIQ
Big Jack said:
No only on a dead ball or free throw or timeout!
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Are you sure? Not trying to argue but I thought with less than 2 min in the fourth quarter you can sub after a made basket. Maybe that's only in HS or NBA?
 
#211      
BashCtIllini
TCTORNADO said:
I'll take a shot, if season were to end today,

Brice Sensabaugh
Braden Smith
Jett Howard
Fletcher Loyer
Conner Essegian

With an outside chance...Epps, Bruce Thornton and Hood-Schifino
Still 5 or 6 games to go.
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Hood-Schifino is going to make it over Loyer and Smith. One of them will make it, but not both.

I'd say:

Sensabaugh
Smith
Howard
Hood-Schifino
Epps or Essegian (whichever finishes strongest)
 
#216      
SoILIllini
skyIdub said:
For 3-4 seconds? Because then you're fouling. I'm 99.999% sure Goode can foul. Then after the FT's what do you want?

Goode. Period. End of debate.
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Interesting that this is the hill you're willing to die on when so many are using common sense to counter..

16 seconds is plenty of time to try and force a 10 second call in the backcourt and get the ball down 1 with 6 seconds to go instead of blindly fouling. Indiana had no timeouts

And RJs quickness and athleticism are more than Goode in that scenario

It didn't work out that way, they got it over the top, we didn't get to foul and got stuck with our shooter on the bench but the logic was there
 
#217      
altgeld88
I'm probably in the minority here but I saw a lot of good things from our guys yesterday that encourage me. The best was that Luke, in his first three games, has played progressively 5, 10, and now 23 minutes. On that last-minute three he took from the corner (it bounced in and out) his legs looked as fresh as they'd been at the outset. Really encouraging. If we can get him 25-30 mins a game from here on out, our offense changes at the margin dramatically for the better IMO.
 
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IlliniCub 16
People often debate whether you would rather lose in a late, heartbreaking fashion or get blown out so you never get your hopes up. In football I actually prefer the blowout, but this season has proven to me that in college hoops I'll take a tough, hard fought close loss every time.

The feelings after the Indiana and Iowa losses are just night and day different than the Northwestern and Mizzou losses. All of them to rivals, but I felt sick to my stomach after the blowouts, where the other two just made me fired up to see the team get back on the court again.

On a separate note, Epps has performed wildly beyond my expectations for him this season. If he could just hit the three a little more consistently then man, our offense would be dynamic.

My fear is something Mike Latulip brought up where his legs may be getting tired as he approaches the freshman wall, and that may be a struggle for him the rest of the season especially since he shoots more of a line drive shot as well. Hopefully Goode getting his legs under him the next few weeks will help offset that in time for the tourney.
 
#219      
Combo
altgeld88 said:
I avoided the postgame thread until this morning. Glad I did. I was proud of our team yesterday. The boys dominated for long stretches, seriously shorthanded, against an excellent IU team on its home floor. We had excellent ball movement. Was well-impressed (once again) with Ty, and didn't know he had been sick this past week. Wonderful to see Luke getting long stretches of tick and performing as he did. Just love that guy, and am grateful he's back and obviously clicking. MM was a monster, and he and CoHawk wiped the glass. We contained TJD fairly well early on, and forced him to pass out of coverage a lot. He was hard to stop late, however.
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Post of the week. It always sucks to lose, but there’s little to criticize about the coaching or the players yesterday.
 
#220      
Roundball Sage
IlliniCub 16 said:
People often debate whether you would rather lose in a late, heartbreaking fashion or get blown out so you never get your hopes up. In football I actually prefer the blowout, but this season has proven to me that in college hoops I'll take a tough, hard fought close loss every time.
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Any kind of loss is not ‘acceptable’ for a player or a team that seeks excellence and ‘Elite’ status. But given the choice of a close loss or a blow out the choice is simple – close, heartbreaking, gut-wenching, soul-crushing, energy-sapping, mind-numbing loss is better.

Now why would that be?

First, because you showed the opponent that no one actually showed superiority in the contest. Any one small thing in a thousand on the court would have changed the outcome. They know they got a bit lucky with the outcome and that doesn’t provide the swagger they seek.

Second, because the close loss hurts the team that lost more. And pain is a great motivator. You just hate how that feels and you never want to experience that again. And so, you double-down on becoming better player and team so you won’t have to feel that kind agony again.

Michael Jordan as a young man was once basically told he’d never amount to much on the basketball floor. He took that insult and personal slight and that moviated him to become the best roundballer that ever lived (sorry, Lebron and Coby and Wilt and Kareem and Larry and Kevin and Rick and... on and on).

So this is with a tough loss. You feel the pain of coming so close and not being victorious. Good players will use this as energy. Lesser players will get negative about that and pout. And find excuses.

Victories begin in the mind before they can be achieved on the court.
 
#221      
CentralILLini
Yeah, wouldn’t shock me to see Luke average close to double figures in scoring the rest of the way. Outside the 3 point shooting that we expect from him im also digging his willingness to be in the middle of the scrum on the boards which allowed him to get a nice bucket yesterday.
 
#222      
bluemountain
SoILIllini said:
Interesting that this is the hill you're willing to die on when so many are using common sense to counter..

16 seconds is plenty of time to try and force a 10 second call in the backcourt and get the ball down 1 with 6 seconds to go instead of blindly fouling. Indiana had no timeouts

And RJs quickness and athleticism are more than Goode in that scenario

It didn't work out that way, they got it over the top, we didn't get to foul and got stuck with our shooter on the bench but the logic was there
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RJ is quicker and a better defender, Goode is a much better shooter and has higher basketball IQ. Odds are if we didn't get the early turnover we would have a chance to foul, which would have allowed us to sub in Goode. So yeah, the logic makes sense. We seem to suffer from a lot of poor execution at critical times
 
#224      
Illini in OC
OrangeAndBlueBlooded said:
That dunk capped off a 7-0 run for us to go up 8, should have been an "and 1" to possibly go up 9. Instead, the 2 technical shots started a 7-0 run for Indiana to cut it back to 1. Huuuuge call in the game. And a bad call as well.
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Agreed. We were on fire after the dunk. No guarantee what was coming next but the T definitely took air out of our balloon and slowed our run.
The T gave CH an extra PF to carry the rest of the way.., who knows what effect that had on him or his playing time? And, getting those 2 made FTs back might've changed the outcome. Just a f'g bummer.

All in all, very proud of our team for the grit and the fight in a nasty place.

Another thing... I hope RJ would watch his own highlight video from last season over and over. It's in there; he just needs to find it again. I continue to be an RJ fan.
 
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