IMO Simmons is more talented. Better ball handler, passer, but worse shooter and rebounder. He's quicker and taller too.
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IMO Simmons is more talented. Better ball handler, passer, but worse shooter and rebounder. He's quicker and taller too.
Beasley's lack of production on the court was because of his production off the court. He has had multiple arrests involving marijuana and once for getting in a fight. I have not heard any character concerns involving Simmons.
Anybody have some sleeper picks they are keeping tabs on? I think Brice Johnson could help some teams.
I think Sabonis is a stud. If he could somehow fall to the Bulls at 14 it'd be a huge steal IMO. Problem is, I doubt he makes it out of the top 10 when all is said and done.
Ben Bentil from Providence is another one who looked like a man amongst boys on the collegiate level last year, and only as a sophomore. He's mocked as going in the early 2nd round from what ive seen and that seems insane to me.
For GP2?
Everything I'm seeing says combo guard. I think E'Twaun Moore is more of a comp for him.
In any event, I haven't seen mock drafts with him in the first round, I'm not sure how we even got onto this subject.
I don't think it's that, I just don't think he's really a high motor player. Combine that with no jump shot and you really wonder whether he's going to be a useful player, but I have just never seen a guy of that size with that kind of court vision and sense of the game. He's confounding and totally unique.
Lamar Odom is the one name that comes to mind. But Odom could shoot.
Not a good comp...
Payton shot 31% from deep. That's not great, but he's not Jaylon Tate.
I still don't quite understand why we're breaking down a 2nd round pick from Oregon State in such depth.
I see. Not impossible, but I doubt it.
Actually the person said they wouldn't be surprised if he (GP2) turned into a star. It originally started because I said I'd take him before Ulis.
In all actuality I do think this is going to be one of those drafts where there's a greater than average number of players who are drafted much later that have better careers than lottery picks. I just don't believe this draft that have that much depth. However these are the drafts that separate the great franchises from the rest because they are able to spot talent and develop it to extract the highest value.
In all actuality I do think this is going to be one of those drafts where there's a greater than average number of players who are drafted much later that have better careers than lottery picks. I just don't believe this draft that have that much depth. However these are the drafts that separate the great franchises from the rest because they are able to spot talent and develop it to extract the highest value.
The consistently good teams and those that compete for titles all generally have productive drafts. 4/5 of the Warriors starting lineup was drafted by them including a second rounder. Plus, even if a guy doesn't turn out to be star, finding a solid rotation player in the second round is still beneficial.
Isn't "depth" exactly what you're describing?
No, it means what it's described. This describes how speculative all of the talent is. Depth would be me saying top to bottom there could be a plethora of impact players. Check out this link when you get a chance and it will describe how varying a retrospective draft can be for a weak draft class.
http://basketball-players.pointafte...a-draft-re-pick-terrible-awful#1-Michael-Redd
This is not the 2000 Draft. We may never see another 2000 again. That's just a random historical oddity.
I actually think this draft is really good in the top 8 or so, though I would agree it's not tremendously deep.
I think Taurean Prince out of Baylor is going to be a stud. 6'8", almost 7ft wingspan, very athletic, lockdown defender, and respectable 3 point shooter(38% this year). He can put the ball on the floor, too. Just get the feeling he'll be a very good 3 and D wing.
That was mostly me, I think. That sophomore leap was huuuuge though. Kris Dunn did Kris Dunn things as expected, but nobody would have predicted Bentil to have such a breakout year. Prop for him, he was impressive.
If I recall, he took our lunch money that day too.
Maybe Mav can have a similar leap :thumb:
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Brian Windhorst @WindhorstESPN 1h1 hour ago The Phildelphia 76ers have informed Ben Simmons they will select him with the No. 1 pick Thursday, source says (@ChrisBHaynes 1st)
Not a big surprise although some were guessing maybe Ingram.
However I saw this a while ago about Ulis. I think he was originally picked by some to be a lottery pick, one guy had him going to the Bulls with their first pick. I see Draft Express now has him going 33rd. Big drop in bucks, if true.
http://www.aseaofblue.com/2016/6/14/11937176/nba-draft-rumors-tyler-ulis-hip-injury-surgery
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2016/
Not a big surprise although some were guessing maybe Ingram.
However I saw this a while ago about Ulis. I think he was originally picked by some to be a lottery pick, one guy had him going to the Bulls with their first pick. I see Draft Express now has him going 33rd. Big drop in bucks, if true.
http://www.aseaofblue.com/2016/6/14/11937176/nba-draft-rumors-tyler-ulis-hip-injury-surgery
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2016/
I'm going out on a limb and predicting Ulis does not get picked.
Bold prediction. The reports mentioned that he would likely need surgery in the future right? If that's even 3-4 years down the road, then he'd still be worth picking in the second round. I don't think he'd slide much further than early 2nd round. I'm betting he'll still be a first rounder.
