Northwestern has fired coach Pat Fitzgerald

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Illini2010-11

Sugar Grove
Northwestern releases some slightly warmed air more like.
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Everything the university has released statement wise is just pathetic.

If Northwestern prides itself as being this elite institution, they would be praising the student journalists who broke this story.

They didn't paint Northwestern in a negative light, years of awful behavior within the athletics department did that.
 
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What I don't understand is how they have not taken any action on the individuals who participated in the hazing and lower level staff and coaches that certainly knew.

Even if it was a small group doing most of the hazing was the culture so bad that no one felt they could stand up for their fellow teammates and/or report it to someone? That last part is squarely on the head coach even if he was shielded from what was going on.
 
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What I don't understand is how they have not taken any action on the individuals who participated in the hazing and lower level staff and coaches that certainly knew.

Even if it was a small group doing most of the hazing was the culture so bad that no one felt they could stand up for their fellow teammates and/or report it to someone? That last part is squarely on the head coach even if he was shielded from what was going on.
They're continuing to cling on to the idea that they could just make Fitzgerald the fall guy and wait our the rest of the bad publicity.

There's no way that current staff wasn't complicit or incompetently ignorant of the hazing going on. Hazing which delves into just actual torture.
 
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chiefini

Rockford, Illinois
They're continuing to cling on to the idea that they could just make Fitzgerald the fall guy and wait our the rest of the bad publicity.

There's no way that current staff wasn't complicit or incompetently ignorant of the hazing going on. Hazing which delves into just actual torture.
I keep thinking this situation can’t get any worse, and then it does. Since it is so prevalent and insidious, and involves so many different sports and athletes, this has to be the death penalty for all NU athletics. Doesn’t it?
 
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I keep thinking this situation can’t get any worse, and then it does. Since it is so prevalent and insidious, and involves so many different sports and athletes, this has to be the death penalty for all athletics. Doesn’t it?
There will be a hue and cry for that. I don't think it will get to that phase - unless it gets REALLY worse.

The amount of horrible publicity this is for Northwestern, the drop off in recruiting, donations and general goodwill surrounding Northwestern athletics could be akin to the death penalty ... at least in regards of the Wildcats fielding winning teams.
 
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I don't think it will be thst hard for them to move on from this from a "clean house and hire a whole new HC staff" perspective. I'm guessing that very little direct punishment will come of it aside from Northwestern's coffers feeling slightly lighter....

They have B1G money, big donors, etc.

Their new coach just has to be known as a squeaky clean, high character, win the locker room in a good way kind of coach.

In other words, Lovie's already on his way.
 
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
its hard to imagine why the AD has not been seen since this thing came out 18 days ago.
There is no way they can retain him once things begin to move forward - Im guessing they keep him in the meantime as there is no way they can begin to look for a new AD right now anyway.
The President is in the same boat really.
 
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IlliniSaluki

IL metro east burbs of St. Louis
its hard to imagine why the AD has not been seen since this thing came out 18 days ago.
There is no way they can retain him once things begin to move forward - Im guessing they keep him in the meantime as there is no way they can begin to look for a new AD right now anyway.
The President is in the same boat really.
I think you are right on the AD. He's here till they feel they can fire him and look for a new one. I think the President could potentially live through it since he is new still. Though he maybe on a "one more thing happens under your watch and you're fired" type of situation.
 
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its hard to imagine why the AD has not been seen since this thing came out 18 days ago.
There is no way they can retain him once things begin to move forward - Im guessing they keep him in the meantime as there is no way they can begin to look for a new AD right now anyway.
The President is in the same boat really.
This is just like Penn State. When did the AD and President learn about it and what did they do about it. In their defense they did commission the 3rd party investigation which is more than Penn State did.

I think the AD may get fired because baseball coach and how badly he handled the hazing explosion (zoom calls instead of coming back from Europe vacation). However president may not want to fire AD right away if there are more skeletons the AD might reveal. The AD started in 2021.

The prior AD only lasted 10 days due to NW cheerleader sexual harassment lawsuit


If it comes out that Jim Phillips (old NW AD) knew about it and did nothing I suspect his tenure as ACC commissioner may end early.
 
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Now the volleyball program has weighed in
injured running sprints, boohoo. Diving in a volleyball drill seems pretty reasonable to me.

Running has been a pretty consistent form of punishment or conditioning. Love when everyone comes out of the woodwork, my coach was mean to me once. They made me do hard stuff I didn't like.

Well if they held you down and monke humped you, or made you walk through a naked dude spinning around, I'll start to listen.
 
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Everything the university has released statement wise is just pathetic.

If Northwestern prides itself as being this elite institution, they would be praising the student journalists who broke this story.

They didn't paint Northwestern in a negative light, years of awful behavior within the athletics department did that.
yes the president is about as tone deaf as it gets. PR nightmare every time they issue a statement
 
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injured running sprints, boohoo. Diving in a volleyball drill seems pretty reasonable to me.

Running has been a pretty consistent form of punishment or conditioning. Love when everyone comes out of the woodwork, my coach was mean to me once. They made me do hard stuff I didn't like.

Well if they held you down and monke humped you, or made you walk through a naked dude spinning around, I'll start to listen.
The line between hard conditioning and discipline can quickly get into hazing. The events alleged in their football program is clear cut

Hypothetically making a player sprint until they vomit is that hazing?

It’s part of the reason military doesn’t use push ups as punishment anymore because it quickly can become abusive if the wrong person is in charge

It will be interesting to see how the players prove their case and what the facts of the case are in all the sports.
 
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NW will pay the price. PedoSU gets off without ever paying the price. Never forget. PSU needs to pay the price.
I remember watching the ESPN coverage of that, back when I still listened to their talking heads. I remember someone, I think it was Herbstreit, saying what PSU got was worse than the SMU death penalty and even then I thought that was BS and that they'd be back to "normal" within 5 years. And wouldn't you know it, they were.
 
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