If you don't count all of Underwood's good players and all of Underwood's success and all of Underwood's best moments then actually he sucks. I am very smart
Totally not the case. Kofi's foot work and game came along way under BU and assistants. And let's give credit to Fletch as well. Go back and see pics of Kofi coming in his freshman year. Que for the Mic drop now!Kansas and UCLA would probably beg to differ with this assessment and he was a 5* on Rivals. You are acting like he was Luka Garza entering college. Brad did nothing to develop Kofi - he left campus with the same skill set he had when he got there.
What!!!Kansas and UCLA would probably beg to differ with this assessment and he was a 5* on Rivals. You are acting like he was Luka Garza entering college. Brad did nothing to develop Kofi - he left campus with the same skill set he had when he got there.
Kansas and UCLA would probably beg to differ with this assessment and he was a 5* on Rivals. You are acting like he was Luka Garza entering college. Brad did nothing to develop Kofi - he left campus with the same skill set he had when he got there.
You might want to double check. Rivals had him as the 9th best center, ranked #45 overall, with 4 stars.Kansas and UCLA would probably beg to differ with this assessment and he was a 5* on Rivals. You are acting like he was Luka Garza entering college. Brad did nothing to develop Kofi - he left campus with the same skill set he had when he got there.
Kansas and UCLA would probably beg to differ with this assessment and he was a 5* on Rivals. You are acting like he was Luka Garza entering college. Brad did nothing to develop Kofi - he left campus with the same skill set he had when he got there.
Dude you have lost all credibility. Sorry.Kansas and UCLA would probably beg to differ with this assessment and he was a 5* on Rivals. You are acting like he was Luka Garza entering college. Brad did nothing to develop Kofi - he left campus with the same skill set he had when he got there.
No they’re not…
and it’s not anywhere close to that simple.
Many of the guards and wings we’ve had…have been good players; but they have had obvious limitations in one area of their game or another. They’ve mostly been role players to be perfectly honest.
Jacob Grandison, for ex…a guard/forward type who was a good passer and a steady, calming presence. He was not a pure shooter but he had good enough command of it to make it work. He had nice court sense and a high BBIQ…
But could Jacob Grandison create his own shot? No not really? Could he go to the rack and get ya one whenever u needed it? Not so much. Was he strong with the ball? Not always. Did he have a quick, silky smooth release? Nope…more of a set shot.
You get the idea….
DaMonte was tough as nails…amazing defensive specialist…he did the little things….heart, hustle, grit…made himself a decent spot up shooter.
On the other side of things…for a guard…Would you say he was a good passer? Nope. Was he playmaker? Nope. Could he create his own shot? No. Did he have amazing handles? Nope
Should I go on?…guards and forwards are hardly a dime a dozen…especially the well-rounded ones. They’re like unicorns.
If BU sucked as much as some folks are pushing, Kofi would have played somewhere else, and someone besides you would have lost his blue binder…If you don't count all of Underwood's good players and all of Underwood's success and all of Underwood's best moments then actually he sucks. I am very smart
Is Kofi's blue binder in reference to something? Did Kofi actually lose a blue binder?If BU sucked as much as some folks are pushing, Kofi would have played somewhere else, and someone besides you would have lost his blue binder…
Or would he have?
Kind of makes your head spin, doesn’t it?
Kansas and UCLA would probably beg to differ with this assessment and he was a 5* on Rivals. You are acting like he was Luka Garza entering college. Brad did nothing to develop Kofi - he left campus with the same skill set he had when he got there.
OA would like to have a word with youKansas and UCLA would probably beg to differ with this assessment and he was a 5* on Rivals. You are acting like he was Luka Garza entering college. Brad did nothing to develop Kofi - he left campus with the same skill set he had when he got there.
Maybe Rudd21 and bluemountain think that BU doesn't know what he's doing ,but he is just REALLY luckyWe will see....he hasn't done it yet at the P5 level - he's a .500 coach in conference play w/out Kofi, albeit with a small sample size. I would love to be wrong btw
“The best thing about freshmen is that they play at exactly the same level for their entire careers, meaning you can give all of the credit for a team’s improvement to that year’s newcomers.”Kofi was a unicorn. Just by his sheer size and athleticism.
Jacob Grandison was a role player/spacer on the court. I’m not talking about him. Neither Damonte Williams who was another role player.
Ayo, Shannon, Mayer, Frazier, Curbelo, Miller, Clark, Epps. All those guys could get their own shot. Perhaps not Clark but he was at least expected too. Most high major D1 teams have guys like that. That’s why I say they are a dime a dozen. The difference maker was Kofi surrounded by those guys.
2018-19 we finished #84 in Kenpom.
2019-20 we finished #30 in Kenpom.
2020-21 we finished #4 in Kenpom.
That’s Kofi. You take most of the exact same guys in 18-19 that stunk, put Kofi in the middle, and suddenly you go 84 to 30. That’s why I said Underwood coached very poorly in 18-19. Either Underwood stunk that year, or Kofi is a generational talent that changed things, or both. It has to be one or the other or both.
WOW....just because you have a thought pop into your head and you then post does it make it true.Kansas and UCLA would probably beg to differ with this assessment and he was a 5* on Rivals. You are acting like he was Luka Garza entering college. Brad did nothing to develop Kofi - he left campus with the same skill set he had when he got there.
Ayo was a great individual player who will have a long NBA career. However, Underwood managed to finish 84 in Kenpom with Ayo before Kofi arrived. I’d say Kofi was the difference maker to that group. You go 84 to 30 with basically the same roster and adding 1 guy to it. It’s math. I can’t argue math. You either accept it or you don’t.“The best thing about freshmen is that they play at exactly the same level for their entire careers, meaning you can give all of the credit for a team’s improvement to that year’s newcomers.”
— Al McGuire
I know you’re being intentionally obtuse here as a trolling tactic, but I gotta hand it to you. There is actually a player who was disproportionately responsible for Illinois’ success over those years. He hit multiple game-winning daggers, put up two triple-doubles in the span of about a week, showed exemplary character on the court and in the locker room, was an absolute go-to guy when you needed a bucket or a stop, and is going to have a decade-long NBA career. And instead of citing him as Underwood’s crutch, you decided to point at the guy standing next to him.
I'm really old and really bored. Thanks for the entertainment! You probably don't know this, but you have something in common with the coach you love to criticize. You both are really stubborn. Then there are 2 things you don't share. He recognizes talent and along with his staff develops it. And the third thing is he can coach and I would be willing to bet you can't or you wouldn't be on this board with the rest of us!Ayo was a great individual player who will have a long NBA career. However, Underwood managed to finish 84 in Kenpom with Ayo before Kofi arrived. I’d say Kofi was the difference maker to that group. You go 84 to 30 with basically the same roster and adding 1 guy to it. It’s math. I can’t argue math. You either accept it or you don’t.
And Ayo was actually statistically worse his Soph year than his FR year. So it wasn’t Ayo getting magically way better to make them go 84 to 30. He actually was worse. Ayo shot 29% from 3 his soph year.
Ayo was more efficient with an expanded role. I don’t know how you take that to mean he was statistically worse.Ayo was a great individual player who will have a long NBA career. However, Underwood managed to finish 84 in Kenpom with Ayo before Kofi arrived. I’d say Kofi was the difference maker to that group. You go 84 to 30 with basically the same roster and adding 1 guy to it. It’s math. I can’t argue math. You either accept it or you don’t.
And Ayo was actually statistically worse his Soph year than his FR year. So it wasn’t Ayo getting magically way better to make them go 84 to 30. He actually was worse. Ayo shot 29% from 3 his soph year.
You're using a single statistic to prove that Ayo regressed from his Frosh to Soph years? You've got to be trolling. His 2pt % increased, his PPG increased, his FT% increased, his assists were lower by 4 (for the entire season, and his rebounds increased. So in looking at the complete picture, Ayo was actually statistically better his Soph year than his FR year.Ayo was a great individual player who will have a long NBA career. However, Underwood managed to finish 84 in Kenpom with Ayo before Kofi arrived. I’d say Kofi was the difference maker to that group. You go 84 to 30 with basically the same roster and adding 1 guy to it. It’s math. I can’t argue math. You either accept it or you don’t.
And Ayo was actually statistically worse his Soph year than his FR year. So it wasn’t Ayo getting magically way better to make them go 84 to 30. He actually was worse. Ayo shot 29% from 3 his soph year.
That's Mr. Pom to you.Ayo was more efficient with an expanded role. I don’t know how you take that to mean he was statistically worse.
Ken should give you your $21.95 back.
Ayo was more efficient with an expanded role. I don’t know how you take that to mean he was statistically worse.
Ken should give you your $21.95 back.
The team stats comparison between 18-19 and 19-20 are remarkably similar:
18-19 19-20
ppg 72.7 72.2
rbg 33.0 39.5
apg 13.5 13.3
topg 13.2 12.1
FG% 43.1 44.3
FT% 70.2 72.8
3pt% 34.5 30.9
The difference is we gave up 75.2 ppg in 18-19 and 65.3 ppg in 19-20. Kofi had a big impact on that improved defense, and was the reason for the increase in rebounding, but the difference between the 18-19 season and the 19-20 season was defense. If I remember correctly we changed the defensive system between those 2 years as well.