Texas coach Chris Beard arrested

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Govoner Vaugn Fan

New Orleans
Regarding Illinois vs. Texas as a job, I think these would be categories I would consider if I were Underwood:

Hassle of Moving: Huge advantage Illinois ... this is an underrated factor, as uprooting one's family always does.
Family/Past Connections to Area: Advantage Illinois ... given his time at Western and the years he's spent in Champaign, I'd say that far outweighs whatever past he had down in Big XII Country south of Kansas.
College Town/City: Advantage Texas, as Austin is (apparently) great ... but some people prefer smaller college towns, too! I also can't get inside Brad's head for the type of culture and atmosphere he wants in an area, what his weather preferences are, how much he likes certain types of foods and other smaller personal preferences that factor into where we all decide to live.

Program Ceiling: About even ... Illinois has more history of Tournament runs and conference championships (the latter very recent), but Texas would have more overall resources.
Fan Enthusiasm: Huge advantage Illinois ... on UT's own board, there was skepticism basketball could ever become more than a stop-gap between football and spring football.
Fan Pressure: Slight advantage Texas, as (surprising or not) I think expectations would be higher here. However, it might be close enough to not matter, plus some coaches don't view the high expectations as a negative ... these guys are winners and competitors.
Recruiting Ground: Slight advantage Texas (especially if you view the Chicago politics as a negative). However, I would argue the Midwest as a whole might be better than Texas and the surrounding states?
Facilities: About even ... Texas' arena is newer but pretty small, and Illinois likely has them beat on practice facilities? Either way, this would likely not be a make-or-break thing in either direction.

Salary: About even ... at this point, I think we'd match Texas' offer, even if they could come up with more money overall. I'd like to think whatever slight pay increase they could provide would not outweigh other factors in our favor, too.
NIL Resources: Advantage Texas ... we might care more about hoops and we have PLENTY of money, but they're still the wealthiest athletic program in the nation.
Conference Affiliation: Slight advantage Illinois once UT is in the SEC ... equal conferences overall but more hoops mania in the Big Ten. It's pretty much down to personal preference, but if you want to coach in a conference that treats basketball as extremely important, I just get that vibe a whole lot more from the Midwest where it's a true tradition.

Like I said earlier, though, I am not worried ... this was just for fun. Is Kansas a better job than Michigan? Y-E-S every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Would Michigan fans ever expect to lose a coach to KU, though? No. They might sweat it out for a bit, but they'd expect to pony up the cash necessary and keep their man. Illinois must think the same way, and I think Josh Whitman does. I would even be confident we could keep Underwood from going to a UNC or Kentucky with the right money, so I certainly will not expect us to lose him to a program a tier below like Texas.
You forgot one big factor...."Proximity to Pizza Hut parking lots"
 
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Illinois has armadillos actually
Hmmm…that’s cool…how far north into Illinois are they seeing them? Just in Southern Illinois?
I’d heard they’d started migrating north; but I didn’t know they had made the journey this far up.

Edit: hadn’t seen the article yet
 
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Hmmm…that’s cool…how far north into Illinois are they seeing them? Just in Southern Illinois?
I’d heard they’d started migrating north; but I didn’t know they had made the journey this far up.

Edit: hadn’t seen the article yet
UGH, they are disgusting creatures and they carry leprosy. They do look cute, but no thanks. They will destroy your landscaping and yard.
 
#133      
Your analysis omitted a key area: sport popularity at respective school & state

Having previously lived and worked in Texas, BU must know that basketball has been, is and always will be a very, very, very distant second to football at UT & the state ofTexas.

That's not the case at UI.

Huge Advantage Illinois
In Texas, UT baseball might be nipping at the heels of #2 basketball.
 
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Hmmm…that’s cool…how far north into Illinois are they seeing them? Just in Southern Illinois?
I’d heard they’d started migrating north; but I didn’t know they had made the journey this far up.

Edit: hadn’t seen the article yet
A few years ago, people saw one in Urbana. Town was aggoggle.
 
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A few years ago, people saw one in Urbana. Town was aggoggle.
South of Paxton, Urbana…I’m agoggle myself. Crazy.

In an earnest attempt to steer this wayward rail car back onto the tracks…
See if you can get through this Chris Beard interview post-championship game with Virginia, now in hindsight…without cringing or throwing up in your mouth a little:


(You know if you feel like it that is.)
 
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pruman91

Paducah, Ky
Penalty? I thought use of the word "ponder" mandated the publication of a certain picture...our favorite subject to ponder...
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Well , now I'm pondering why I forgot the mandate......my bad......so sorry .......................

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I feel better now ..................ponder away my wayward bro's.........................

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#142      
Will they still even be allowed to participate in the NCAA after their state secedes from the Union?
Literally just spoke with somebody today who excitedly talked about Texas needing to secede. Came about because Texas has its own pledge that they do after the real pledge in school. I pointed out that you can not pledge allegiance to 2 different things because that’s not how allegiance works by definition.

Got my typical 🤔 look like I do every time I bust that one out.
 
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purcy51

Nappanee, IN
My key takeaway-
Armadillos: advantage Texas
No armadillos: advantage Illinois

loop armadillo GIF
I actually hit one of these on my bike on my way in to work one morning in Arkansas. Little !!!! came out of nowhere!
 
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Just to throw some cold water on BU to Texas - I love what BU has built here and is building, but would Texas really go after a coach that has never been to the Sweet 16 in the NCAA tourny? Tourny success is usually pretty high on the criteria for big time programs
 
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Just to throw some cold water on BU to Texas - I love what BU has built here and is building, but would Texas really go after a coach that has never been to the Sweet 16 in the NCAA tourny? Tourny success is usually pretty high on the criteria for big time programs

Tourney results are definitely a concern. He's also top-20 salary-wise (6 of the those coaches already have a Natty), which means there aren't many programs that would even consider him. That said, I think his rebuild here makes him attractive to any program that needs a major overhaul.
 
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Is Texas a “big time program” in a way Illinois isn’t? Because they have a lot of football money? Are we worried about Notre Dame and Alabama taking Brad, too??

He ain’t goin’ nowhere. 😎
 
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