It’s been more than 48 hours; why haven’t we heard anything?
Don't read this thread? Just a thought. When I see stuff I don't want to read I don't read it.I'm growing tired of the legal debates. Can we just sit and wait for more news?
Weekend and holidayIt’s been more than 48 hours; why haven’t we heard anything?
To me its not about the legal debates or even if tsj is innocent which I believe he is. If he is out on bail for a felony warrant this or any university won't allow him to play, period. Even if they know he is innocent. He unfortunately is treated guilty until proven innocent as far as playing hoops is concerned.I'm growing tired of the legal debates. Can we just sit and wait for more news?
Interesting. So a woman can decide it's rape if anything they were told was false? That seems hard to believe. A lot dates that start on a dating site or one night stands that started in bars involve misrepresentations of all kinds.I am an attorney and I’m very much presenting facts. The term in Kansas is called “rape by fraud”. Numerous scenarios have been prosecuted.
The cases that I am familiar with the misrepresentation was more material than what appears to be in this case but still the argument is essentially “rape by fraud” or “rape by a misrepresentation”. And if you don’t think that is a real thing then there are people in prison in Kansas who disagree with you.
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To me its not about the legal debates or even if tsj is innocent which I believe he is. If he is out on bail for a felony warrant this or any university won't allow him to play, period. Even if they know he is innocent. He unfortunately is treated guilty until proven innocent as far as playing hoops is concerned.
Been reading all your guy’s thoughts, just curious as to when that panel will meet to decide over TJs suspension, and if any information has been found over what that decision might look like?
Cue the My Cousin Vinny scene, ‘sounds like you wish to skip the whole process and go straight to trial’. Paraphrasing.I’ll add one thing: Those expecting something to change on the January 18th court date are going to be disappointed. In this hearing, the judge will simply read the charges and TSJ will enter his plea. There will be no evidence presented nor explanations provided. It’s merely the first step in a long legal process.
No clue on when they'd meet, but I'd have to imagine that JW wouldn't bring it up as a possibility if he weren't hopeful it might happen.Been reading all your guy’s thoughts, just curious as to when that panel will meet to decide over TJs suspension, and if any information has been found over what that decision might look like?
I find it incredulous that someone's job, salary, background, education, upbringing, credentials, status or net worth even comes into play in situations such as this.To explain the legalities a little, the prosecution (and alleged victim) is potentially arguing that consent under false pretenses is not consent. This is a legitimate legal argument. The strength of that argument is what is debatable.
Been reading all your guy’s thoughts, just curious as to when that panel will meet to decide over TJs suspension, and if any information has been found over what that decision might look like?
I would certainly agree with this.To
To me its not about the legal debates or even if tsj is innocent which I believe he is. If he is out on bail for a felony warrant this or any university won't allow him to play, period. Even if they know he is innocent. He unfortunately is treated guilty until proven innocent as far as playing hoops is concerned.
My interpretation of JW's presser is no, he won't be able to practice with the team - suspended from team activities; but he will be able to train on his own and have access to facilities, training staff, etc.I would certainly agree with this.
BUT - would they let him practice with the team? Continue to prep for his (potential) pro career? Just thinking out loud
This is huge for him. Hopefully he doesnt let this slow him down. Kid need to be at his prime for at least the NBA draft/combine.My interpretation of JW's presser is no, he won't be able to practice with the team - suspended from team activities; but he will be able to train on his own and have access to facilities, training staff, etc.
Interesting.New and a Lurker since the beginning. Having been involved with prosecutions as a Fed on state/ federal levels, I thought I’d weigh in on the charges brought by the DA. If we felt strongly about the serious felony charge, we would not accompany it with a much lesser misdemeanor charge and allow a jury the opportunity to forego the felony and find on the misdemeanor.
That's 2 hours too long. Honestly, if people want to debate law, open up a new thread entitled "Kansas State Law". It's getting outside of the TSJ discussion and dovetailing into a pi$$ing contest of who knows more.Over/under on this thread getting shut down? 2 hours
That's why this thing smells so fishy. Personally, I think the felony charge might be there just to push them to plead to the misdemeanor. Not sure they really have a case on either.New and a Lurker since the beginning. Having been involved with prosecutions as a Fed on state/ federal levels, I thought I’d weigh in on the charges brought by the DA. If we felt strongly about the serious felony charge, we would not accompany it with a much lesser misdemeanor charge and allow a jury the opportunity to forego the felony and find on the misdemeanor.
... what is absolutely possible is that the accuser had 2nd thoughts after the encounter and is now claiming non-consent after the fact.
There's a reason people joke about baby daddies being made during All Star weekends, or why the Viagra Triangle is known by those on the dating scene in Chicago. Some folks only want a certain kind of partner and some of their criteria seems incredibly shallow (and nonsensical) to the rest of us, and some of them may be pissed enough to find it they were lied to that they carry things this farI find it incredulous that someone's job, salary, background, education, upbringing, credentials, status or net worth even comes into play in situations such as this.