Mississippi State 19, Illinois 10 Postgame

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We got 0 sacks and it seemed like the QB had all day. Would have been nice to mix in a blitz once in a while. I understand that we were missing 2 important pieces but secondary can't hold coverage indefinitely. Maybe they only score 7. Who knows?
We were sacked 7 times.
My point is, Illinois did not lose becasue of the defensive strategy and play. We lost because of the offense.
 
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but these kids are not playing the game for you. I would have advised my own kids to skip the game too. Really proud of the effort today and content with the outcome and season. Hopeful for the future rather than disappointed with what could have been.
Illinois Loyalty says “these are your sons…fighting for you.” Even though it was written in 1907, I still thought it applied today.
 
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Illinois Loyalty says “these are your sons…fighting for you.” Even though it was written in 1907, I still thought it applied today.
Sorry but the actual lyrics are:


Fling out that dear old flag of Orange and Blue
Lead on your sons and daughters, fighting for you
Like men of old, on giants placing reliance, shouting defiance
Oskee wow-wow!”
 
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Sorry but the actual lyrics are:


Fling out that dear old flag of Orange and Blue
Lead on your sons and daughters, fighting for you
Like men of old, on giants placing reliance, shouting defiance
Oskee wow-wow!”
Oof, been singing it wrong for almost 60 years. Well, still it’s your sons (and daughters, but not in football) fighting for you. Really remarkable to have a reference to daughters in a song written in 1907.
 
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The false start was a killer. Going into the locker room with 17 points at halftime? Would have been sweet. I don’t want to know who that was. That really cost us the ballgame.
I don't think we can assume a dead ball penalty would have played out the same way. The defense could have reacted to a whistle or the movement of an official.
 
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By the way, did you notice that MSU employed the Michigan State strategy on defense? As soon as we got rolling on offense suddenly one of their players had a mysterious injury, lying on the field for five minutes as their defense regrouped and our momentum cooled? This happened three or four times and I predicted the last two to the guy seated next to me.

Don’t know what you can do about it other than hustle them off the field quicker, but health is paramount so you don’t want to make a real injury worse.
I guess all the MSUs cheat alike!
 
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It was a hard fought game. Our offense struggled some. I expected it to. Love played solid but currently there is a large gap between one of the nations top rushers and our other backs. Also when considering not having our best two future NFL pass defenders and top RB Chase Brown.
I was actually very encouraged how our your defenders played that very good and experienced pass offense. I thought we may struggle more without those three studs and down a lineman who's back up had some critical penalties. The team played very well all things considered. After today my glass is half full and there is a lot to be excited about our future!
 
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By the way, did you notice that MSU employed the Michigan State strategy on defense? As soon as we got rolling on offense suddenly one of their players had a mysterious injury, lying on the field for five minutes as their defense regrouped and our momentum cooled? This happened three or four times and I predicted the last two to the guy seated next to me.

Don’t know what you can do about it other than hustle them off the field quicker, but health is paramount so you don’t want to make a real injury worse.
I guess all the MSUs cheat alike!
Eh… I don’t know… Michigan State’s was obvious and intentional. There were at least a couple of those injuries yesterday where the players had struggles standing and walking.

For all the vaunted “SEC speed”, they were not use to getting hit the way our offense and defense hits.
 
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By the way, did you notice that MSU employed the Michigan State strategy on defense? As soon as we got rolling on offense suddenly one of their players had a mysterious injury, lying on the field for five minutes as their defense regrouped and our momentum cooled? This happened three or four times and I predicted the last two to the guy seated next to me.

Don’t know what you can do about it other than hustle them off the field quicker, but health is paramount so you don’t want to make a real injury worse.
I guess all the MSUs cheat alike!

Based on their reactions and movement, I don't think they were intentionally trying to slow momentum, I think it was more of a product to their guys getting absolutely rocked by our guys. Almost every time when they showed one of their players slow to get up it was directly due to a crushing hit by one of our players. Some of the times this happen it did suck as it seemed to stall our momentum, but I think that was just coincidental timing. It was pretty clear the Miss St. players hadn't been hit this hard all season. Our game against MSU it was blatantly obvious they were stalling for time after every single play. Much different story in my opinion.

Really, I think a sort of "knockdown" rule coming into effect would mitigate some of this gamesmanship. Maybe something like a player slow to get up/needing an injury timeout twice in a game needs to sit out for a quarter as they get checked out. If they are slow to get up a third time, they need to sit the rest of the game to avoid major injury. Something of that sort.
 
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That score epitomized the season, great defensive effort followed by an uneven offensive effort. Hopefully the next QB can be more of a playmaker than manager. This season should bolster their recruiting efforts as they've shown they're not the complete wasteland program of recent memory.
 
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I see this video is making the rounds of Yahoo and the like. Not a good look for us......
Or them, since it was 6 MSU to 1 of us to start it

Edit: After re-watching the beginning, agree, unnecessary hit by our player. Have seen many of those unnecessary penalties this year, but fewer than previous years
 
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The game today was a disappointing way to end the season, but overall, this was a terrific season for Illini football given our recent past. These guys made it fun to watch the games again and gave us a bowl game to watch in January for the first time in a long time. I don't think we could ask for anything more of this team and I am grateful for all their efforts this season.

Having said that, the team that played for us today was not the team that got us into this bowl game. We were missing the #4 running back in the entire nation and started three freshmen in the secondary because were missing two absolute studs on defense in Witherspoon and Sydney Brown. When I look at how tight the final score was, how unproductive our offense was and some of the key plays that led to our loss (for example, with Witherspoon and Sydney Brown in, we are probably not even talking about "was his foot in or out?"), I am convinced that we would have come away with a bowl game win if we had our full 2022 Illini roster for the game (and maybe or Defensive Coordinator too?).

The problem is, I can't blame the players for opting out. It makes total sense for them financially to avoid the risk of injury. But this is going to be a real problem for every bowl team and every bowl game from now on. Some teams are going to be going to bowl games without their stars and it is going to lead to less productive offenses, less intimidating defenses and more disappointing results for half the fans in the stands. And if fans start to feel like bowl games aren't as good without the star players and don't mean as much, then attendance and viewership will decline. And that isn't good for NCAA football.

Anyway, congratulations and thank you to Coach Bielema, the staff and the players for a great Illini football season!
This is a great summary, thanks. I've been trying to figure out how to express similar thoughts, without coming across as completely negative, and you did a fine job of that. I agree that it's reasonable to think our odds of winning the game were far better with our three stars on the field. Both because all three are great players, but also because they played the majority of available minutes all season long. As a fan, it just stinks. Having your stars sit out the most visible game of the season is not good for the sport or the team. But as you and others have said, it's totally understandable from the players' standpoint. So the fault is with the "system," and it's up to each fan to decide how they react to it.

In my case, I certainly won't be traveling to any bowl games when our star players sit out the game. And I might skip watching the games from home as well. I'm competitive by nature, as are many/most sports fans, and I don't enjoy losing. Losing when we could have won with our season-long starters in the game is just not fun at all.

So, great season. Awesome play by the young secondary in the bowl game; those guys are going to be very good.
 
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This could have been a very different game if our players hadn't opted out (quit) !
Yes this has been one hell of a season and more than i expected, I know some will be pissed
about the first sentence, Im not an NFL fan, so if there success isn't on this site i Will never know, nor will
I follow or keep up. I wish there was some type of accountability for players that opt out on their brothers, so much for FAMILLY , I am a season ticket holder since 2005 and a I Fund donor and missed only 3 games since then. I drive 247 miles one way (3 hrs 40 min) no matter the outcome , rain, sleet or snow I go
the Purdue game this year tested my wife's commitment to me and the game this year, (both ended up sick and got covid) . I'm a shift worker (12 hr) and some time I get off work and head to game, I show up, I'm just a fan but their brothers they left on the field, some of them will never go
to the next level, but they were a big part of their success and they left them hanging. I hope they opt out of senior bowl and
other events as well.