Purdue 96, Illinois 88 2OT Postgame

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#276      
blife
They went to the free throw line 32 times in our house and we got there 15 times??? WTF. That was the game changer. We played hard but no way we committed that many more fouls than Purdue.
 
#277      
blackdog
Rap47 said:
The most obvious officiating difference was Kofi getting a foul when he fell into Eady and no foul was called on Eady when he dived into Curbelo
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Kofi didn't fall into Eddy, Eddy hooked him his elbow from behind and dragged him backwards to the floor. Had a perfect angle from where I was sitting.

Kofi's second foul was also a terrible call. He was behind Williams who jumped forward for the rebound and they called Kofi for the push from behind but he never extended or even really bumped Williams.

Before one of Sasha's late 3s the refs also missed him stepping out of bounds on the defensive rebound. The entire end of the arena by the basket was calling it but the refs didn't.
 
#278      
pruman91
UCantHideYer said:
Stick to your guns Skyldub! You’re absolutely spot on about the stripes on this one. I’m hoping our post mates on here are just egging you on for the sake of arguing. Scales tipped by the refs. No doubt about it.
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Unfortunately they believe what they type.......I set a record today by putting the most posters on ignore ever in one day.......if anyone thought the refs had no effect on this game then they are no post mates of mine............Everyone who watches college BB knows a ref will miss one from time to time....it's the blatant missing of numerous calls every game they ref that is so frustrating .....i always ask who the refs are because certain refs WILL impact the game negatively for the Illini........

Larry S.
Bo Boroski
DJ Carstensen
are the most inept refs I have ever seen .....last time i checked and I don't have a link , but I think they make $ 3,000 for every game they ref..........it's about time the B1G and fans got their money's worth......

This was a horrific display of terrible judgment calls that were so awful that if they perform that way in any other job they would have been fired years ago.....
2 of the 3 refs I named above have some shady background baggage so take that into consideration when you former post mates post that the refs didn't impact the game ....they do impact EVERY game as they make the calls and there should be a grading component on every game they call..........

I am very upset and I can't travel to the games and pay mucho $$$ for tickets ....Probably a good thing as I would be booted before the firast media time out........BTW , was that dj bald head ref threatening an Illini fan with ejection if they didn't set down .....That's what brian or deon was saying on the radio feed .........Rabbit ears or guilty conscience ??
 
#279      
21ChampaignSt
Great game. The better team lost today. That happens. I'm so proud and impressed by our guys. We played 29 minutes without our All American. And Purdue still needed 2OT's and 3 referees to beat us.

Assembly Hall was as electric as it's been in a long long time. Let's make that the norm.

Curbelo was our MVP and didn't even need to make a 3 to impact the game. Hopefully that quiets the posters who used him as a punching bag the last two months.

Looking forward to the revenge game.
 
#282      
Roundball Sage
Sometimes you just have to look past the final score and recognize the Heart of a Champion. Today was such a day. On both sides. Pure heart... just going AT IT... never quitting for a moment. A joy to watch and a great day to be Orange. And the Illini found a way to compete mostly without their Big Man. The Heart of a Champion all over that floor on both sides.

This is why we love this Game. A thing of beauty like today.

Additional Note to University of Illinois College of Medicine: Please issue a Medical Degree to Andre Curbelo RIGHT NOW. That man is a SURGEON.
 
#285      
Punesguy
steveinspringfield said:
Bardo makes me remember Dakich isn't all that bad. I have to turn off the sound when Bardo has an Illini game. His "better put your big boy pants on" every 5 minutes is getting old. But the good news of the day is that the Illini made a game of it without Kofi...and Belo was a lot better than I expected in his first game back. Better days are coming. (I still think the turning point of the game was Payne's flagrant 1.)
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Couldn't agree more! I graduated with Bardo and loved him as a player but he is awful to listen to ... especially for our games. I would like to submit a formal request for Robby Hummel to call the game and to never have Big Baldy officiate U of I games moving forward! :shield:
 
#286      
JFGsCoffeeMug
Definition of a "quality loss" for me.

Belo's back. BBV played his heart out. Plummer worked his way out of his shooting slump. We could have folded at the end of regulation, but we fought like heck to force two OTs.

Kofi had a bad game, but expect him to bounce back soon. Let's return the favor when we play at Mackey.
 
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Homecoming 2019
2qtslow said:
DMW was standing straight up, but of his heels were inside the arc, or whatever that line is called.
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The arc doesn't matter on these types of plays, only on drives where the defensive player is in the paint and the offensive player is entering the paint.
 
#291      
BlindLoyalty
Lots of good, lots of bad in that game. The one and only think I want to highlight was the performance and effort of Benjamin Bosmans-Verdonk. That was a Buster Douglas type performance. He went from getting human victory cigar minutes to being a critical contributor vs. the best bigs the NCAA has to offer in the biggest game of the season.

Shout out to Benjamin Bosmans-Verdonk.
 
#292      
GBIllini
Kofi had a tough day. Refs definitely affected the outcome in favor of the boils. Kofis frustration came out after being repeatedly fouled with no calls, and got more physical himself. Refs had whistles waiting for him. All the Curbelo critics have an extra large CROW pie to gulp down. Overall good game for the Illini, just the wrong outcome.
 
#293      
OrangeLife
727ill said:
Dude you can slow-mo every call and it looks bad. The refs did Kofi a favor and swallowed the whistle on one when he had 3 fouls and then he picked up the fourth like a couple seconds later.

A couple games in the past year or so stick out as very poorly officiated and this was not one of them.
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I disagree completely with you on this one. The game as absolutely not called the same on both ends, They let Purdue get away with a lot that was called on us. I go to all of the games, and this was a poorly officiated game all around that impacted us much more than Boilers. Painters teams always get the princess treatment from the refs.
 
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Illiniguy13
skyIdub said:
But..but...but.......fouls call themselves!


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And Kofi is a liability /s
 
#295      
purcy51
skyIdub said:
Oh right, like the time he absolutely smoked BBV to the floor while hacking his entire arm. Bardo said no foul so I digress....
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There was another one on Edey's put back. Totally got BBV in the back and shoved him out of bounds
 
#297      
dbeverly26
I’ll never understand why people say things like “if we would have [shot better/turned it over less/rebounded] we would have won so complaining about the refs is wrong” or “reffing is really difficult and they’ll never get everything right so complaining about the refs is wrong” and so on. Both of those things are true and also completely unrelated to the fact that the refs frequently impact the outcome of games, so what’s the point? Just, you know, let us be mad about it and go back to making a cardigan out of human hair clippings or whatever other weird thing keeps your boat afloat.
 
#298      
ChiefKingfisher
For me, a moral victory isn’t good enough when you’re at home and are competing for a conference title. Sure, we played with a lot of heart, but you gotta win games like this. We needed this one to shut up the critics saying we still haven’t beaten a ranked team. Sucks because we easily could have won, but that technical on Payne was killer and Stephanovich hit some ridiculous 3’s.

I am, however, glad to see Curbelo back and playing great.
 
#299      
WizardBill
Stevegarbs said:
Great post, thank you for sharing. I used to challenge the "bad officiating cost us the game" posts here but gave it up years ago. I have not officiated basketball, but did work high school and college football for 30 years and you hit some very salient points here. The armchair experts on this board are every bit as delusional and wrong about what is happening at Illinois basketball (and football) games as they were in my games. Officials do not care who wins or loses, they are not negatively influenced by crowd pressure or even coaching input (especially at the D1 level), and they try to get every call right. Counting fouls/penalties/free throws and claiming a difference in the totals indicates officiating bias is just plain wrong- one team committed more fouls than the other, period. Fouls call themselves, the officials just blow the whistle/throw the flag and identify the culprit and associated penalty. After 30 years I am cynical enough to recognize that fans will never understand let alone appreciate any of it.

And I agree with you about those officials who make it to much about themselves. I've never appreciated TV Ted Valentine's "style" and don't get how MLB umpires interact with coaches and players. Know the rules, use good mechanics, call what you see and see what you call, Get The Big Ones, Make It Be There.

GO ILLINI!
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I have never reffed at the college level, just high school, but, I have to ask (based on your deference of this game’s officiating), HOW do you call that foul on DMFW?
 
#300      
purcy51
hoopsfan47 said:
Kind of get a kick out of all the complaining on ref calls. I would bet my life that none of those posts come from anyone who has ever refereed a B1G game between two teams of this ilk. Of course, there never has been a game like this between two teams with this much size, speed, and quickness. It is extremely difficult.

I will say this, you will never see a game where every call is correct, and likely, 99% of us will never understand what the correct calls are. I sure don't, and I have played organized hoops for 35 years, been trained in correct officiating, and even called a few games. I had a friend who was an official and called games in the MVC and B1G for decades. First of all, they all take pride in making the correct call. Secondly, some calls have to be interpreted by what is seen and they can NEVER be seen from all angles by anyone. Finally, timing is critical. They know they miss things....and they know they are affected by crowd noise and momentum. Bottom line, they always make calls in real time by what they see. Replay has helped them get things right in some cases, but will not, at this time, and maybe never, allow that in real time. The only problem I ever have with officials are those who like the spotlight....and those are less and less prevalent as review and renew committees are weeding them out. It is a thankless job, but overall, is filled by a pretty admirable bunch of people.
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Get outta here with that rational bs! Just kidding, good post!
 
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