Luckily they’ve spent the last 20 years squandering their advantages, but they absolutely have the resources to be a force in the NIL era.To be a blue blood, you need to be blue. UK, KU, Duke, UCLA. All blue. Sorry Indiana.
Luckily they’ve spent the last 20 years squandering their advantages, but they absolutely have the resources to be a force in the NIL era.To be a blue blood, you need to be blue. UK, KU, Duke, UCLA. All blue. Sorry Indiana.
IUs last natty was before anyone currently attending the university was born.
I was four months old when Keith Smart hit that shot, and this is hate speech imho.It’s to the point where there parents aren’t born or have little to no memories of them winning a natty. It was almost 40 years ago
UCLA still gets my vote.Would Indiana to 1993 plus UConn since be the greatest program of all time?
Little known fact: Illinois's school color was just orange until this rule was established..To be a blue blood, you need to be blue. UK, KU, Duke, UCLA. All blue. Sorry Indiana.
Really? Has Underwood resurrected it that much? Hope so but it’s hard not to feel this is inflated when Weber and Groce were the best we could do and we seemed to be passed on by target candidates for two cycles.
Coaches around the country will tell you this is a top 10 job ...
Resources, Facilities, Fan support, and an elite level AD who gets it (this matters so much more than people realize) ...
We are a high level program and we act like it ...
People really overreacted to the Groce hire, coming on the heels of the Beckman shambles.Coaches around the country will tell you this is a top 10 job ...
Resources, Facilities, Fan support, and an elite level AD who gets it (this matters so much more than people realize) ...
We are a high level program and we act like it ...
Apparently so do we. Even Arkansas has more through Wal-Mart money or whatever, this is the real question, IMO.How does the basketball NIL compare to football is the question
Arkansas has money to spend
It’s not a subjective ranking, it’s the extension of the formula over all seasons. It’s like how our 2021 team would have added a “#2 ranking” to our overall average but only a Second Round appearance, too.I’m sorry, even in 2009 I can’t imagine we had a case to be ahead of Duke. It’s just not even close. Back then they had 3 more titles, 5 more runners up, and 8 more final fours than us. Someone was on something when they made this list.
No one doubts Indiana has a great history … but outside of their relatively small state’s borders, people just simply aren’t in awe of it. It’s actually funny, even people who grow up in that state hating IU (like Purdue or Butler fans or whatever) drink the Kool-Aid and overrate IU’s “brand.” I promise you that your average high school kid in suburban Chicago does NOT view Indiana as anything special moving forward … on a scale of how relevant your historical success is today where Kentucky basketball is a 10 and 1920s Illini football is a 0, Indiana is closer to a 5 or a 6.- 5 Natty's
- 1,926 wins; 1,116 losses (.633)
- 6th in all-time NCAA appearances
- 7th in all-time NCAA victories
- 6th all-time in weeks ranked #1 in the AP poll
Yeah, unless unduly influenced by the "recency effect", I'd still call Indiana a blue blood --- assuming you can go 6 deep in your blue blood count. Looking back over the entirety of 123 seasons, that's a lot of basketball success!
The top 4 are indisputable, of course --- KY, UCLA, KANSAS and UNC. 40+ years of Coach K probably has pulled Duke into BlueBlood-ism. Guess they're the new #5 all-time.
Bottom-line, the Hoosiers should be able to hire nearly anyone they want.
But it's just kind of hard to understand given that Coach K did not by any means invent Duke Basketball, that has been a strong program forever, they just hadn't won a national title.It’s not a subjective ranking, it’s the extension of the formula over all seasons. It’s like how our 2021 team would have added a “#2 ranking” to our overall average but only a Second Round appearance, too.
Duke was in the shadow of their rivals for most of their existence. In no uncertain terms, it was K who made them what they are. Duke never even made the NCAA tournament until 1980. Things began to change when they hired K in 80. But it wasn’t immediate.But it's just kind of hard to understand given that Coach K did not by any means invent Duke Basketball, that has been a strong program forever, they just hadn't won a national title.
Duke is us but better, and I can't imagine what statistical formula would tell you otherwise in 2009. (Their fourth title that coming season surely resolved the question regardless)
Duke had been to four Final Fours, been runner-up twice, and had won 10 ACC championships by 1980.Duke never even made the NCAA tournament until 1980.
Duke had been to four Final Fours, been runner-up twice, and had won 10 ACC championships by 1980.
Coach K driving the narrative that Duke was his personal fiefdom that had no meaning beyond his person was one of the many things that sucked about him.
No one doubts Indiana has a great history … but outside of their relatively small state’s borders, people just simply aren’t in awe of it. It’s actually funny, even people who grow up in that state hating IU (like Purdue or Butler fans or whatever) drink the Kool-Aid and overrate IU’s “brand.” I promise you that your average high school kid in suburban Chicago does NOT view Indiana as anything special moving forward … on a scale of how relevant your historical success is today where Kentucky basketball is a 10 and 1920s Illini football is a 0, Indiana is closer to a 5 or a 6.
Okay? I'm afraid sportsreviews.com is not correct.The History of the Blue Devils: Duke Basketball | sportsreviews.com
With a 107-year history of excellence, Duke basketball has exemplified the true meaning of greatness. Four national championships have been won. Read more.sportsreviews.com
Oh, I definitely agree. I just remember people were always like bringing up reasons why the list was “crazy” back when it came out as if the final ranking was like refined or proofed, haha. It’s just a formula. Looking at those results, it appears Big Ten teams benefited disproportionately from whatever SOS metric they used?But it's just kind of hard to understand given that Coach K did not by any means invent Duke Basketball, that has been a strong program forever, they just hadn't won a national title.
Duke is us but better, and I can't imagine what statistical formula would tell you otherwise in 2009. (Their fourth title that coming season surely resolved the question regardless)
Yep, lazy journalism… you’re right. That’s what I get for quoting certain internet sources without double checking.Okay? I'm afraid sportsreviews.com is not correct.
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There’s a reason every conference team hates us. We are the sleeping giant.Coaches around the country will tell you this is a top 10 job ...
Resources, Facilities, Fan support, and an elite level AD who gets it (this matters so much more than people realize) ...
We are a high level program and we act like it ...
Thanks to BU, we are now more like the giant who is still on his first cup of coffee! This is an essential March to prove we can win in the Tournament.There’s a reason every conference team hates us. We are the sleeping giant.
If ILL is considered a top 10 job would it be fair to say BU is thought of as a top 10 coach?Coaches around the country will tell you this is a top 10 job ...
Resources, Facilities, Fan support, and an elite level AD who gets it (this matters so much more than people realize) ...
We are a high level program and we act like it ...
They haven’t won a title since 1987 and haven’t been to a final 4 in 22 years. That’s not recency bias.- 5 Natty's
- 1,926 wins; 1,116 losses (.633)
- 6th in all-time NCAA appearances
- 7th in all-time NCAA victories
- 6th all-time in weeks ranked #1 in the AP poll
Yeah, unless unduly influenced by the "recency effect", I'd still call Indiana a blue blood --- assuming you can go 6 deep in your blue blood count. Looking back over the entirety of 123 seasons, that's a lot of basketball success!
The top 4 are indisputable, of course --- KY, UCLA, KANSAS and UNC. 40+ years of Coach K probably has pulled Duke into BlueBlood-ism. Guess they're the new #5 all-time.
Bottom-line, the Hoosiers should be able to hire nearly anyone they want.
Which is why it’s a disgrace that the team hasn’t made it to the second weekend of the tournament since 2005 (a feat that half the current conference teams, and all of the incoming programs, have accomplished).Coaches around the country will tell you this is a top 10 job ...
Resources, Facilities, Fan support, and an elite level AD who gets it (this matters so much more than people realize) ...
We are a high level program and we act like it ...