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I get your position, mine is the minute players start signing contracts is the day I stop following college athletics (We're almost to that point IMHO).

They've been signing contracts for a long time. (scholarships and the support that goes with them are contracts). Inducements have been around for a very, very long time. My point is not to be pedantic but to argue that free agency is effectively here already. If the colleges want signees to stay longer than 1 year, they're going to have to come up with something that provides more stability. Loyalty is a 2 way street.
 
#354      
Plummer, Dainja, Shannon and Mayer is a hell of a portal run, man…
The first three yes...... I'd argue Mayer was not a net plus for the Illini.

But I'd need to slam a bunch of Monster drinks first!!
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#355      
Remember when a kid developed and by his senior year might not be a
starter, but a valuable contributor minutes wise? Will that ever happen again?
Who were those kids at Illinois? Neil Bresnahan ( i was pretty young,?), Tyler
Griffey, Nick Smith, Bill Cole....
Some of those guy were top 150 recruits…
 
#357      
No… that was not, in fact, the question:

when a kid developed and by his senior year might not be a
starter, but a valuable contributor minutes wise? Will that ever happen again?
Who were those kids at Illinois?
Calvin Brock in 2009 was my first thought. Only started five games because Chester got injured but played in every game.
 
#364      
Brandon was finally getting some playing time.

Still if he wants to be a starter he should transfer to someplace like Ivy league and become a legend!

I guess we are looking in portal for backup center now. I would like a Euro-5 that can spread the floor but still have the size to block shots in the lane.

Good luck Brandon.
 
#366      

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Lieb may be graduating and want to get a master's degree elsewhere. I mean, it would make sense, right?
 
#368      
The first three yes...... I'd argue Mayer was not a net plus for the Illini.

But I'd need to slam a bunch of Monster drinks first!!
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I completely agree in hindsight, don't get me wrong. However, at the time it was quite the coup, and my point was mainly that Underwood has proven his ability beyond any doubt to have at least as much talent coming in from the portal as exiting out (again, without 20/20 hindsight).
 
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The few practices I watched, never really saw Chin coach much. I did watch him FU Big Greg about 20X in a 5 min span doing a simple lane line passing drill with defense, honestly thought Greg might punch the guy in the nose.
Haha, I saw something similar at the one practice I went to during that time. Except in that one Chin was telling Greg to play with more confidence and said something along the lines of "I know you don't have any confidence, I've seen that ugly girl you mess around with" 😂
 
#371      
Are…are we even going to be able to fill a roster next year?

We’ve got what, 5 guys for sure coming back/coming in right now?
 
#372      

Chuck Nuggets

Dip your nuggets in my staff source sauce.
Are…are we even going to be able to fill a roster next year?

We’ve got what, 5 guys for sure coming back/coming in right now?
If there's one thing Underwood has shown he can do, it's find guys to fill a roster. He'll get guys. He'll get good ones. We just don't know if he'll be able to patch it together in a meaningful way.
 
#374      
Is that a troll account with the ol' "Illannoy" pun? (but misspelled, of course, fittingly...)
 
#375      
Entitlement, instant gratification, no development, no loyalty, lower quality, constant movement... Is this a case of College Ball mirroring modern Society-at-Large... or Society-at-Large mirroring basketball? Or both just mirroring and reinforcing each other?

In a rush for name-recognition, fame, and fortune... a few things seem to get lost along the way. In both arenas of Life. Whether this is done on or far away from a basketball court... our World has fundamentally changed and the only sporting group that still holds most of the loyalty and ‘no-movement’ are the fan bases.

I’m all for players ‘Getting Theirs’ because coaches and institutions have long been getting theirs for a long time. But we can’t expect players to have a different mind-set from coaches who seek their best financial deals and loyalty extends only so far as the length of their contracts.

And yes, the quality of roundball has deteriorated in general at all levels after high school. High school still retains a great deal of the sound fundamentals and basic loyalties that go with the local families and communities that are its foundation.

And much of the NBA today is a full-on atrocity of play.
The NBA is more complex than ever, sincerely sit down and watch a team like the Warriors, Kings, or the Bucks on defense and I would be shocked if you don't find that to be true. The amount of off-ball movement and complex actions is crazy. Most people with this lazy take point to "poor defense" and players just being able to run to the rim. The reason those lanes are so open now is because of how ridiculously good of a shooter the average NBA player is today, allowing for spacing that opens up huge lanes for athletic demigods to attack the rim (plus some gracious refereeing).
 
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