MSU-Michigan Postgame Scuffle

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jamarvelous31

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GoodePodzMelendez said:
So much to hate about this. Lots of questions. Where were the MSU coaches? How did a Michigan player(s) get separated from other UM players? MSU will be put in a tough spot as, my opinion, Tucker should be fired for lack of control of his players. But will they? Lots of outside pressures to make a move or to not make a move. Unfortunately, its going to be a rough week for Tucker and MSU.
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The story is that UM players were on the field the 2 jumped player headed back early.
 
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DeonThomas

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doowink said:
Yep...this short video shows a good deal more than the first or previous one.....blows with the helmet definitely being delivered...that's gonna get a pretty hefty suspension....don't care how it started....can't allow players to be throwing punches and using their helmets to opponents!
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Yes, leading with the helmet could/should be targeting and can mean ejection & suspension. I suspect officials will go to the film for review.
 
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Centennial Illini

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Old.Edgy said:
I believe it was the 1953 game at Iowa... big fight, lots of thrown 'things'.... at us... We didn't play Iowa again until 1967... So this kind of behavior is not new...
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During that event, a lot of Iowa fans stormed the field, one of whom got his jaw broken by an Illini player.

The thought of that after all these years still makes me feel warm and fuzzy.
 
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LouHenson

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I wonder if one of the scUM players assaulted was #1? There is a video of him skipping into the tunnel with zero scUM players around him.

No matter what Michigan does need to address this now. This can not continue anymore as I think there have been 3 incidents in their last 7 games in the big dump house.
 
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Redbull

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LouHenson said:
I wonder if one of the scUM players assaulted was #1? There is a video of him skipping into the tunnel with zero scUM players around him.

No matter what Michigan does need to address this now. This can not continue anymore as I think there have been 3 incidents in their last 7 games in the big dump house.
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I saw that video also. He was definitely being an antagonist. No excuse still for MSU players.
 
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Calvin

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skyIdub said:
Can you unequivocally condemn this, and unconditionally support it at the same time?

Asking for a friend.
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Ander1345

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LouHenson said:
I wonder if one of the scUM players assaulted was #1? There is a video of him skipping into the tunnel with zero scUM players around him.

No matter what Michigan does need to address this now. This can not continue anymore as I think there have been 3 incidents in their last 7 games in the big dump house.
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From what I read he's still not fully recovered from a ACL injury so he was heading to the locker room.

Need a full investigation. If he was being instigative, fine, punish him too. But if he was just happy his team won, you can't gang up on someone for that.
 
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IllinoisssssssVarsity

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EyeoftheIllini said:
You really think Tucker should be fired over this? Unless there has been a pattern of this type of behavior on team or he and his coaches were standing there and did nothing to stop it, I just don’t see this as something he should be fired for. Heck even when off field criminal activities by players, it is the covering up of things or intimidating victims/witnesses that I think is fireable — unless, of course, there is a pattern also. Tucker can’t be everywhere and I highly doubt he is preaching this kind of behavior. Now will MSU try to use this as a reason to fire him? Maybe. But to paint this as a “culture” thing is a disservice to Tucker and all the MSU players who weren’t involved and wouldn’t act like this.

All that said, throw the book at the players involved.
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I get the sentiment to maybe want to fire him because his contract is so ridiculous, but I think this is spot on. As a coach when you’re players do stupid stuff, you feel guilty because you often reflect on your own practices: could I have done something better? Did I miss something? Etc etc.

But on the other side you also feel betrayed. You talk to your players about having character, integrity, and doing the right thing. You try to incorporate good life lessons into your coaching. The problem is, a team is still made up of individual humans, some of whom will just do stupid things when presented the opportunity. You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.
 
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doowink

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IlliniFaninHoosierLand said:
It's more about the timing that Michigan uses for teams entering and leaving the tunnel. Especially for a rivalry game like Michigan-Michigan State, there should be better work of timing when the teams come in and out of the tunnel.
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Is this the same tunnel the Illini will enter and then exit the field after we pummel the maize and blue in a couple weeks??? Asking for a friend.
Sure hope so....that way we can show them how classy the Illini players and the program in Champaign really are!
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