Yeah, he finds any reason to come after the Illini and it is so predictable. He said Bielema was going to lose the team after he said we had no depth. The following week, we upset Penn State. He said Curbelo should not have been benched in the second half of the tournament game having no clue what had gone on in the locker room. I hadn’t heard his take on Orange Krush because I removed 670 from my dial because of him.You definitely got that right. Seems like anytime the score, especially Bernstein, has the chance to bash the Illini he’s all over it. What a putz
Yep, exactly. If I were to hazard a guess at what actually happened, my guess would be that Iowa was looking through the list of groups to see who was attending the game in order to put welcomes for them on the scoreboard during breaks in play, etc. Someone saw the group name, went to look them up to call them to say when they would be welcomed on the scoreboard, only to find out the group didn't exist and the contact was from Champaign tipping them off it was the Krush. So they cancelled the tickets then and there. And when the Krush argued publicly, Iowa played the you misrepresented yourself using language that strongly and purposefully attempts to deceive the public that the Krush did something morally and ethically wrong, and that Iowa was morally and ethically right in taking away their tickets. And that Iowa is such a shining Pearl of truth and justice and right, that they gave the tickets to the "rightful owners" the boys and girls club of Iowa. Could they have just said to the Krush, that sucks dudes, we don't sell tickets to opposing fangroups, we would have told you that if you had said who you were originally? Of course, but we live in a day and age where we must prove our moral correctness superiority at all times because we must be right. For anyone who has any knowledge of Iowa athletic department history, them pretending to have the moral high ground is farcical.They do this every year. Pose as some other fictional group; enter dressed as the other team's fans, then reveal themselves as Krush after the game starts. They have posed as boy scouts and family reunions in the past.
This year they called themselves 'the Illinois Chapter of the Boys and Girls Club"; which does not exist. It is a fictional group.
There are "Boys and Girls Clubs of 'fill in a location'." There is also "The Illinois Alliance of Boys & Girls Clubs."
There is a reason Krush uses a fake name for their annual road trip. When they use their real name; the other schools won't sell them the tickets.
Perhaps the name raised a red flag that took 4 months to investigate? The tickets were purchased in October. Buses were chartered for 200. Individuals booked hotel rooms. Iowa waited until yesterday to cancel the tickets.
Iowa implied Krush obtained a discount by posing as a charity. That is apparently false. The discount is allegedly available to any group of 20 or more. Besides, Krush is a 501(c)3 origination.
If they got some sort of charitable org discount; due diligence would call for submitting a correct name and an identification number with the application.
It was probably stupid to use a name similar to a real organization, but at the end of the day, it amounts to college fun and games they have been doing for 20 years.
I think for the Wyoming game this season, they had an alumni group but 50 tix in a block. No one was worried about that. I know that was football and this is basketball. But as someone who’s gone into Carver-Hawkeye to root for the orange and blue, I hope the Krush still goes and buys any open seat they can get. Their fans are very cranky. I stood after most of the good plays for Illinois, clapped and wasn’t obnoxious - the hawk fans were relentless at telling me to sit, go home, etc. If I recall, they also complained constantly about the officiating.As Illinois fans (specifically football), we have seen our fair share of other fanbases come in and occupy large portions of our own stadium and yet (to my knowledge) the ticket office has never revoked tickets like this. You don't want groups of opposing fans flocking to your stadium and taking over? Then do a better job selling the product to your own fanbase.
In short, shut up Iowa; take our money and disrespect.
Don Moyer Boys & Girls Club in ChampaignAs for Krush, they need some good PR of their own. Maybe give up their tickets for the game against Minnesota to the closest Boys & Girls Club (greater Peoria probably?) Turn it into a PR opportunity for the team to meet with the kids and sign some things and shoot around or whatever.
Why exactly does the Orage Krush need to exemplify additional good PR? Unless they are actually threatened with losing non-charitable status, they have absolutely no need to satisfy the "national media" perspective.As for Krush, they need some good PR of their own. Maybe give up their tickets for the game against Minnesota to the closest Boys & Girls Club (greater Peoria probably?) Turn it into a PR opportunity for the team to meet with the kids and sign some things and shoot around or whatever.
I just saw a suggestion on Reddit (long live Reddit takes!) that Krush should have posed as a group for "The Human Fund" instead.
It's a good suggestion going forward. Maybe instead of money their slogan can be, "Tickets for People".
Care to explain the reference? A web search did not find it.Sadly none of the kids are old enough to get that reference.
I don't think that would work. Illinois has a policy whereby they can refuse entry to any patron at any time for any reason. You can hear an announcement to that effect as you approach the Assembly Hall. I would guess that Iowa has a similar policy and that they would most likely enforce it on our kids. Most likely they would have made the trip to Iowa for naughtIf I were a wealthy alum, I’d call up the Cedar Rapids B&G Club first thing in the morning and tell them I’d donate $100K if they handed me those 200 tickets.
Then I’d give them to Krush.
Not U of I related at all. Just a Seinfeld/George Costanza reference.Care to explain the reference? A web search did not find it.
(And I remember the early Henson years, including the four corners offense.)
I don't think that would work. Illinois has a policy whereby they can refuse entry to any patron at any time for any reason. You can hear an announcement to that effect as you approach the Assembly Hall. I would guess that Iowa has a similar policy and that they would most likely enforce it on our kids. Most likely they would have made the trip to Iowa for naught
I have heard this from many people, including my dad (Illini fan), my friends' dads (all Iowa fans) and even Stephen Bardo recently on TV ... and I'm curious why it changed so much. I mean, I literally said in this very thread that it can get REALLY loud in there (and it can!), but I would generally consider it one of the worst game-to-game atmospheres in the Big Ten, and I am clearly not alone because there are constant topics on the Iowa message boards complaining about Carver being a morgue.
There was a lot of frustration built up west of the Mississippi by 1952. Illinois owned the Squawks in those days. In fact, Ray Eliot was our coach for 17 years, starting in 1942, and never lost to them. Of course, part of that was due to the suspension after the '52 game. For most of that time, Iowa had a coach named Evachevski (?) who they thought was the cat's meow, but he could NEVER beat Ray.Thanks for that Cedar Rapids Gazette article on the 1952 "riot." Interesting history of which I was unaware. IMO the Iowa-Illinois bad blood matches MSU-Michigan for nastiness.
The article listed strange periods when certain BT teams didn't play each other in football back when the conference had 9 or 10 teams. They missed one: Purdue and Ohio State didn't play between 1970 and 1975.
He went to Duke. 'Nuff said.Yeah, he finds any reason to come after the Illini and it is so predictable. He said Bielema was going to lose the team after he said we had no depth. The following week, we upset Penn State. He said Curbelo should not have been benched in the second half of the tournament game having no clue what had gone on in the locker room. I hadn’t heard his take on Orange Krush because I removed 670 from my dial because of him.
They just forgot to say “Boys and Girls Orange Crush Club”. Probably just a typo!How long until the Krush get their "Illinois Chapter of the Boys and Girls Club" t-shirts?
You've got to be kidding, right?I have noticed that two of the most despised opponets in the Big10 are Iowa and Indiana
I have have always had strong animosity for the Whosiers
What are some good reason for developing an intense dislike for he Hawkeyes?
Chicago media has picked this up (670 the score) with them describing the Orange Krush behavior as “Disgusting”. Clearly Iowa won the PR battle here and convinced everyone that some sort of legitimate fraud has occurred aside from giving a fake group name. Give me a break.
Or maybe you would prefer they be "caned". Geez, they're college kids wanting to have fun going to an away game. They didn't cheat on a test or hack a teacher's computer to change their grade. They wanted to attend a BB game in Iowa City to cheer on their Illini and tried to evade the ticket trolls in the HackEye ticket office. Good for them. We did stuff like way back in '66-"70. Don't be so offended. Never go to Kam's when you were underage? It's a college basketball game Iowa, be thankful anyone even wants to travel to your campus.The Orange Krush was worried that Iowa would not sell a block of 200 seats to a rival student group. To avoid this possibility, their solution was to obscure their real identity/affiliation and falsely claim they were the "Illinois Chapter of the Boys and Girls Club? Some of the brightest students this State has to offer decided the best course of action was to lie and impersonate a children's charity? People are defending this unethical behavior? The Orange Krush most certainly needs to issue a public apology.
shh I suspect that is actually their planSo if the busses aren't being refunded, why don't the Krush students still go up there and see if they can buy individual tickets. At the very least, they could take over an Iowa bar.
That's because a lot are NW grads.You definitely got that right. Seems like anytime the score, especially Bernstein, has the chance to bash the Illini he’s all over it. What a putz