Texas coach Chris Beard arrested

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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
if I understand things correctly. the gal Beard choked was his fiance, not his wife.

Geez, imagine divorcing your wife, for likely a younger gal, having to deal with all those issues with your ex and kids, and now you lose your paycheck because you got mad are your girlfriend ??????
 
#102      
Now Mike Leach is gone. Three serious situations of three Coaches from top University programs all within a two-week period.

The details of these sad situations may differ. But the intense pressures upon these men is something they all experience. As well as all the other Coaches.

Work-Life balance is critical these days. And many Coaches of sports organizations have a problem with that. Any medical professional who knows anything will tell you that stress is very damaging to the body and mind.

All Coaches want to win. That’s what the Game is all about. And that’s what Their future employment rests upon. And all fans want ‘Their’ team to win every game and every season. But maybe all this pressure has reached its limit. Maybe that’s what all this is trying to tell us.

When you think about how many people are involved in putting a team out there every day... not to mention the players and their families... there are countless families and individuals involved in these programs. And they create a team family in addition to their own.

This will be a sad holiday time for many families around these programs. Tragedy never takes a holiday.

You're really pushing the stress/mental health angle on this. I can appreciate that coaches are under a lot pressure to succeed but so are lot of people in this world who aren't charged with felony family violence. Sure not everyone has the masses second guessing their decisions on a regional/national scale but coaches also have the financial security that most can only dream of. Obviously money doesn't cure all but it sure takes away the pressures of providing for your family.
 
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pruman91

Paducah, Ky
if I understand things correctly. the gal Beard choked was his fiance, not his wife.

Geez, imagine divorcing your wife, for likely a younger gal, having to deal with all those issues with your ex and kids, and now you lose your paycheck because you got mad are your girlfriend ??????
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That's a lot to imagine or ponder about...............................from the proverbial frying pan to the biggest of bonfires.......

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#105      
I hear you, but Beard's sins are WAY WAY worse

Howard should have been fired, but the scUM AD didnt have the stones
I don't think anyone in their right mind does not think Beard's alleged actions are WAY WAY worse. I'm basically saying that I'll believe it when I see when it comes to the most arrogant universities in the country doing the right thing regardless of the effect on the bottom line. In this case, I think it's just as true for Texas, an institution that has clearly spent time in H***, the only place they could have had their orange burnt so badly that it's an insult to our beloved orange -- I guess you could also loosely apply this logic to the retina-burning TN orange in the new Orange v. Orange men's basketball series.
 
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if I understand things correctly. the gal Beard choked was his fiance, not his wife.

Geez, imagine divorcing your wife, for likely a younger gal, having to deal with all those issues with your ex and kids, and now you lose your paycheck because you got mad are your girlfriend ??????
She was a volleyball player at tech. Beard divorced his ex wife in like 2019.
 
#108      
If and when Beard is let go from Texas, don’t be surprised if they make a run for BU.
I live in Austin, and a friend of mine at work said “We’re going after your coach” and i laughed. Then I stopped laughing. Because UT usually gets what they want.
 
#110      
I live in Austin, and a friend of mine at work said “We’re going after your coach” and i laughed. Then I stopped laughing. Because UT usually gets what they want.
Josh Whitman + Illini Basketball being an amazing job? I am not scared.

‘Bout time our fans start thinking with the swag of comparable programs like Arizona, Michigan or Indiana, who’d never expect to lose a coach if the money is ponied up. 😎
 
#111      

Illini in OC

In. The. Alley.
They tried last time.
No surprise here.
Get used to it but don't worry about it.
In fact, relish it. After a few more cycles, BU will be like K, Roy, Self, Wright, Izzo, etc.

BU may leave for very personal reasons... but where to?

BU calls this the best job in the NCAA. (Coach speak, I know)
He is in the the top tier of compensation.
He is beloved by Illini nation.
BU is now recruiting and landing the types of players he wants.
He has the assistants he wants who are well paid and inevitably (and hopefully) get poached for HC jobs- UIUC is a great place to be if you're an assistant. This includes Fletch.
Ubben is among the best, if not the best hoops facility around.
 
#112      
You're really pushing the stress/mental health angle on this. I can appreciate that coaches are under a lot pressure to succeed but so are lot of people in this world who aren't charged with felony family violence. Sure not everyone has the masses second guessing their decisions on a regional/national scale but coaches also have the financial security that most can only dream of. Obviously money doesn't cure all but it sure takes away the pressures of providing for your family.
e but coaches also have the financial security that most can only dream of. Obviously money doesn't cure all but it sure takes away the pressures of providing for your family.

Amen
More money in one year, than the average person will earn in a lifetime
Not much sympathy here, if accusations are in fact true.
 
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e but coaches also have the financial security that most can only dream of. Obviously money doesn't cure all but it sure takes away the pressures of providing for your family.

Amen
More money in one year, than the average person will earn in a lifetime
Not much sympathy here, if the accusations are in fact true.

The Austin Police Department said the following in a press release: "On December 12, 2022, at approximately 12:15 a.m., the Austin Police Department (APD) received a 9-1-1 call for a disturbance in the 1900 block of Vista Lane. The caller reported the disturbance was no longer ongoing and one of the individuals had left the house. APD officers responded and located a woman who stated she had been assaulted and strangled by Christopher Michael Beard.

"Beard was booked into Travis County Jail. He is charged with Assault by Strangulation/Suffocation - Family Violence, a third degree felony."

The Statesman acquired Chris Beard's arrest affidavit late Monday afternoon.

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Regarding Illinois vs. Texas as a job, I think these would be categories I would consider if I were Underwood:

Hassle of Moving: Huge advantage Illinois ... this is an underrated factor, as uprooting one's family always does.
Family/Past Connections to Area: Advantage Illinois ... given his time at Western and the years he's spent in Champaign, I'd say that far outweighs whatever past he had down in Big XII Country south of Kansas.
College Town/City: Advantage Texas, as Austin is (apparently) great ... but some people prefer smaller college towns, too! I also can't get inside Brad's head for the type of culture and atmosphere he wants in an area, what his weather preferences are, how much he likes certain types of foods and other smaller personal preferences that factor into where we all decide to live.

Program Ceiling: About even ... Illinois has more history of Tournament runs and conference championships (the latter very recent), but Texas would have more overall resources.
Fan Enthusiasm: Huge advantage Illinois ... on UT's own board, there was skepticism basketball could ever become more than a stop-gap between football and spring football.
Fan Pressure: Slight advantage Texas, as (surprising or not) I think expectations would be higher here. However, it might be close enough to not matter, plus some coaches don't view the high expectations as a negative ... these guys are winners and competitors.
Recruiting Ground: Slight advantage Texas (especially if you view the Chicago politics as a negative). However, I would argue the Midwest as a whole might be better than Texas and the surrounding states?
Facilities: About even ... Texas' arena is newer but pretty small, and Illinois likely has them beat on practice facilities? Either way, this would likely not be a make-or-break thing in either direction.

Salary: About even ... at this point, I think we'd match Texas' offer, even if they could come up with more money overall. I'd like to think whatever slight pay increase they could provide would not outweigh other factors in our favor, too.
NIL Resources: Advantage Texas ... we might care more about hoops and we have PLENTY of money, but they're still the wealthiest athletic program in the nation.
Conference Affiliation: Slight advantage Illinois once UT is in the SEC ... equal conferences overall but more hoops mania in the Big Ten. It's pretty much down to personal preference, but if you want to coach in a conference that treats basketball as extremely important, I just get that vibe a whole lot more from the Midwest where it's a true tradition.

Like I said earlier, though, I am not worried ... this was just for fun. Is Kansas a better job than Michigan? Y-E-S every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Would Michigan fans ever expect to lose a coach to KU, though? No. They might sweat it out for a bit, but they'd expect to pony up the cash necessary and keep their man. Illinois must think the same way, and I think Josh Whitman does. I would even be confident we could keep Underwood from going to a UNC or Kentucky with the right money, so I certainly will not expect us to lose him to a program a tier below like Texas.
 
#115      

NEIlliniFan

No longer in New England
Regarding Illinois vs. Texas as a job, I think these would be categories I would consider if I were Underwood:

Hassle of Moving: Huge advantage Illinois ... this is an underrated factor, as uprooting one's family always does.
Family/Past Connections to Area: Advantage Illinois ... given his time at Western and the years he's spent in Champaign, I'd say that far outweighs whatever past he had down in Big XII Country south of Kansas.
College Town/City: Advantage Texas, as Austin is (apparently) great ... but some people prefer smaller college towns, too! I also can't get inside Brad's head for the type of culture and atmosphere he wants in an area, what his weather preferences are, how much he likes certain types of foods and other smaller personal preferences that factor into where we all decide to live.

Program Ceiling: About even ... Illinois has more history of Tournament runs and conference championships (the latter very recent), but Texas would have more overall resources.
Fan Enthusiasm: Huge advantage Illinois ... on UT's own board, there was skepticism basketball could ever become more than a stop-gap between football and spring football.
Fan Pressure: Slight advantage Texas, as (surprising or not) I think expectations would be higher here. However, it might be close enough to not matter, plus some coaches don't view the high expectations as a negative ... these guys are winners and competitors.
Recruiting Ground: Slight advantage Texas (especially if you view the Chicago politics as a negative). However, I would argue the Midwest as a whole might be better than Texas and the surrounding states?
Facilities: About even ... Texas' arena is newer but pretty small, and Illinois likely has them beat on practice facilities? Either way, this would likely not be a make-or-break thing in either direction.

Salary: About even ... at this point, I think we'd match Texas' offer, even if they could come up with more money overall. I'd like to think whatever slight pay increase they could provide would not outweigh other factors in our favor, too.
NIL Resources: Advantage Texas ... we might care more about hoops and we have PLENTY of money, but they're still the wealthiest athletic program in the nation.
Conference Affiliation: Slight advantage Illinois once UT is in the SEC ... equal conferences overall but more hoops mania in the Big Ten. It's pretty much down to personal preference, but if you want to coach in a conference that treats basketball as extremely important, I just get that vibe a whole lot more from the Midwest where it's a true tradition.

Like I said earlier, though, I am not worried ... this was just for fun. Is Kansas a better job than Michigan? Y-E-S every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Would Michigan fans ever expect to lose a coach to KU, though? No. They might sweat it out for a bit, but they'd expect to pony up the cash necessary and keep their man. Illinois must think the same way, and I think Josh Whitman does. I would even be confident we could keep Underwood from going to a UNC or Kentucky with the right money, so I certainly will not expect us to lose him to a program a tier below like Texas.
Your analysis omitted a key area: sport popularity at respective school & state

Having previously lived and worked in Texas, BU must know that basketball has been, is and always will be a very, very, very distant second to football at UT & the state ofTexas.

That's not the case at UI.

Huge Advantage Illinois
 
#116      
Your analysis omitted a key area: sport popularity at respective school & state

Having previously lived and worked in Texas, BU must know that basketball has been, is and always will be a very, very, very distant second to football at UT & the state ofTexas.

That's not the case at UI.

Huge Advantage Illinois
Yeah, I guess I kind of dispersed that into two categories, haha. But I definitely agree!
 
#117      
Regarding Illinois vs. Texas as a job, I think these would be categories I would consider if I were Underwood:

Hassle of Moving: Huge advantage Illinois ... this is an underrated factor, as uprooting one's family always does.
Family/Past Connections to Area: Advantage Illinois ... given his time at Western and the years he's spent in Champaign, I'd say that far outweighs whatever past he had down in Big XII Country south of Kansas.
College Town/City: Advantage Texas, as Austin is (apparently) great ... but some people prefer smaller college towns, too! I also can't get inside Brad's head for the type of culture and atmosphere he wants in an area, what his weather preferences are, how much he likes certain types of foods and other smaller personal preferences that factor into where we all decide to live.

Program Ceiling: About even ... Illinois has more history of Tournament runs and conference championships (the latter very recent), but Texas would have more overall resources.
Fan Enthusiasm: Huge advantage Illinois ... on UT's own board, there was skepticism basketball could ever become more than a stop-gap between football and spring football.
Fan Pressure: Slight advantage Texas, as (surprising or not) I think expectations would be higher here. However, it might be close enough to not matter, plus some coaches don't view the high expectations as a negative ... these guys are winners and competitors.
Recruiting Ground: Slight advantage Texas (especially if you view the Chicago politics as a negative). However, I would argue the Midwest as a whole might be better than Texas and the surrounding states?
Facilities: About even ... Texas' arena is newer but pretty small, and Illinois likely has them beat on practice facilities? Either way, this would likely not be a make-or-break thing in either direction.

Salary: About even ... at this point, I think we'd match Texas' offer, even if they could come up with more money overall. I'd like to think whatever slight pay increase they could provide would not outweigh other factors in our favor, too.
NIL Resources: Advantage Texas ... we might care more about hoops and we have PLENTY of money, but they're still the wealthiest athletic program in the nation.
Conference Affiliation: Slight advantage Illinois once UT is in the SEC ... equal conferences overall but more hoops mania in the Big Ten. It's pretty much down to personal preference, but if you want to coach in a conference that treats basketball as extremely important, I just get that vibe a whole lot more from the Midwest where it's a true tradition.

Like I said earlier, though, I am not worried ... this was just for fun. Is Kansas a better job than Michigan? Y-E-S every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Would Michigan fans ever expect to lose a coach to KU, though? No. They might sweat it out for a bit, but they'd expect to pony up the cash necessary and keep their man. Illinois must think the same way, and I think Josh Whitman does. I would even be confident we could keep Underwood from going to a UNC or Kentucky with the right money, so I certainly will not expect us to lose him to a program a tier below like Texas.
I like your break-down…well thought out as usual. Mine is gonna be less thorough and scientific:

Advantage Texas:
-Live Music…BU says he likes
Country Music. Austin is the kind of place
you might see Willie Nelson staggering out of a bar in the wee hours.

-Barbecue, here it is something you do outside in the summer. No disrespect to
Blackdog, (amazing) but they run out of
stuff by early afternoon sometimes. Texas
is a whole start devoted to it. If he’s a bbq
dude…and let’s face it, who isn’t? HUGE
advantage Texas.

-Grey, Drizzly, Wet, WARM Winters…they don’t know what putting salt on the roads is. They use sand. It’s pretty much all they need. If you don’t like snow…don’t go out that one day that happens about once every 3 years.

-Summers are arguably less humid.

-Austin has cool vibe for a college town. IMO It is a legit city that somehow has a small-town feel…(yes it actually does.)

-I almost forgot about the Alamo. If you’re history buff I guess??
Fun fact: A regiment from Illinois took Santa Anna’s leg.

-Armadillos

Advantage Illinois:
-Not everything is BIGGER in Texas.
Ask a deerhunter.

-Too many things can kill you…especially the drivers. Don’t get me started on the spiders…FAR Less god-durn Brown-Recluse Spiders up here.

-It’s all about rodeo clowns and shooting cannons at half-time…those fans don’t respect the greatest game ever invented…
I mean not really.

-Actual Seasons…orange, yellow, and red leaves. All they have is red dirt.

- White Christmases (sometimes)

-Champaign is an excellent, traditional college town; albeit on a smaller scale

-I’m guessing Josh is cooler than their dude.

-No armadillos

-Moving DOES suck.

* Macomb and Nacogdoches are both depressing IMO..,that one is a draw.

To sum up, they can kiss our Yankee butts;
we’re keeping our guy. Go poach elsewhere.
 
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Tophe

Middle TN
They use sand. It’s pretty much all they need. If you don’t like snow…don’t go out that one day that happens about once every 3 years.

When I went to U of I (30+ years ago), they put down sand instead of salt. Do they use salt now?
 
#119      

InDaAZ

Eugene, Oregon
I like your break-down…well thought out as usual. Mine is gonna be less thorough and scientific:

Advantage Texas:
-Live Music…BU says he likes
Country Music. Austin is the kind of place
you might see Willie Nelson staggering out of a bar in the wee hours.

-Barbecue, here it is something you do outside in the summer. No disrespect to
Blackdog, (amazing) but they run out of
stuff by early afternoon sometimes. Texas
is a whole start devoted to it. If he’s a bbq
dude…and let’s face it, who isn’t? HUGE
advantage Texas.

-Grey, Drizzly, Wet, WARM Winters…they don’t know what putting salt on the roads is. They use sand. It’s pretty much all they need. If you don’t like snow…don’t go out that one day that happens about once every 3 years.

-Summers are arguably less humid.

-Austin has cool vibe for a college town. IMO It is a legit city that somehow has a small-town feel…(yes it actually does.)

-I almost forgot about the Alamo. If you’re history buff I guess??
Fun fact: A regiment from Illinois took Santa Anna’s leg.

-Armadillos

Advantage Illinois:
-Not everything is BIGGER in Texas.
Ask a deerhunter.

-Too many things can kill you…especially the drivers. Don’t get me started on the spiders…FAR Less god-durn Brown-Recluse Spiders up here.

-It’s all about rodeo clowns and shooting cannons at half-time…those fans don’t respect the greatest game ever invented…
I mean not really.

-Actual Seasons…orange, yellow, and red leaves. All they have is red dirt.

- White Christmases (sometimes)

-Champaign is an excellent, traditional college town; albeit on a smaller scale

-I’m guessing Josh is cooler than their dude.

-No armadillos

-Moving DOES suck.

* Macomb and Nacogdoches are both depressing IMO..,that one is a draw.

To sum up, they can kiss our Yankee butts;
we’re keeping our guy. Go poach elsewhere.
My key takeaway-
Armadillos: advantage Texas
No armadillos: advantage Illinois

loop armadillo GIF
 
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My key takeaway-
Armadillos: advantage Texas
No armadillos: advantage Illinois

loop armadillo GIF
IMO they’re a quirky wonder of nature.
But too many of ‘em on the roadways and they’re a curse of nature.

* just thought of anotherAdvantage Illinois:

-Mosquitoes the size of hummingbirds, down there lol
 
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I like your break-down…well thought out as usual. Mine is gonna be less thorough and scientific:

Advantage Texas:
-Live Music…BU says he likes
Country Music. Austin is the kind of place
you might see Willie Nelson staggering out of a bar in the wee hours.

-Barbecue, here it is something you do outside in the summer. No disrespect to
Blackdog, (amazing) but they run out of
stuff by early afternoon sometimes. Texas
is a whole start devoted to it. If he’s a bbq
dude…and let’s face it, who isn’t? HUGE
advantage Texas.

-Grey, Drizzly, Wet, WARM Winters…they don’t know what putting salt on the roads is. They use sand. It’s pretty much all they need. If you don’t like snow…don’t go out that one day that happens about once every 3 years.

-Summers are arguably less humid.

-Austin has cool vibe for a college town. IMO It is a legit city that somehow has a small-town feel…(yes it actually does.)

-I almost forgot about the Alamo. If you’re history buff I guess??
Fun fact: A regiment from Illinois took Santa Anna’s leg.

-Armadillos

Advantage Illinois:
-Not everything is BIGGER in Texas.
Ask a deerhunter.

-Too many things can kill you…especially the drivers. Don’t get me started on the spiders…FAR Less god-durn Brown-Recluse Spiders up here.

-It’s all about rodeo clowns and shooting cannons at half-time…those fans don’t respect the greatest game ever invented…
I mean not really.

-Actual Seasons…orange, yellow, and red leaves. All they have is red dirt.

- White Christmases (sometimes)

-Champaign is an excellent, traditional college town; albeit on a smaller scale

-I’m guessing Josh is cooler than their dude.

-No armadillos

-Moving DOES suck.

* Macomb and Nacogdoches are both depressing IMO..,that one is a draw.

To sum up, they can kiss our Yankee butts;
we’re keeping our guy. Go poach elsewhere.
For better or worse, Illinois has armadillos: https://www.wbez.org/stories/armadi...-chicago/a58a0312-3960-4778-a3c5-0ac7b177348f
 
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I like your break-down…well thought out as usual. Mine is gonna be less thorough and scientific:

Advantage Texas:
-Live Music…BU says he likes
Country Music. Austin is the kind of place
you might see Willie Nelson staggering out of a bar in the wee hours.

-Barbecue, here it is something you do outside in the summer. No disrespect to
Blackdog, (amazing) but they run out of
stuff by early afternoon sometimes. Texas
is a whole start devoted to it. If he’s a bbq
dude…and let’s face it, who isn’t? HUGE
advantage Texas.

-Grey, Drizzly, Wet, WARM Winters…they don’t know what putting salt on the roads is. They use sand. It’s pretty much all they need. If you don’t like snow…don’t go out that one day that happens about once every 3 years.

-Summers are arguably less humid.

-Austin has cool vibe for a college town. IMO It is a legit city that somehow has a small-town feel…(yes it actually does.)

-I almost forgot about the Alamo. If you’re history buff I guess??
Fun fact: A regiment from Illinois took Santa Anna’s leg.

-Armadillos

Advantage Illinois:
-Not everything is BIGGER in Texas.
Ask a deerhunter.

-Too many things can kill you…especially the drivers. Don’t get me started on the spiders…FAR Less god-durn Brown-Recluse Spiders up here.

-It’s all about rodeo clowns and shooting cannons at half-time…those fans don’t respect the greatest game ever invented…
I mean not really.

-Actual Seasons…orange, yellow, and red leaves. All they have is red dirt.

- White Christmases (sometimes)

-Champaign is an excellent, traditional college town; albeit on a smaller scale

-I’m guessing Josh is cooler than their dude.

-No armadillos

-Moving DOES suck.

* Macomb and Nacogdoches are both depressing IMO..,that one is a draw.

To sum up, they can kiss our Yankee butts;
we’re keeping our guy. Go poach elsewhere.
Will they still even be allowed to participate in the NCAA after their state secedes from the Union?
 
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