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Travis1173

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voiceofreason93 said:
I have read the entire message board after the initial suspension and up to this post, read what has been said. I believe it sad at how there is a "belief" that the legal system is corrupt or a victim coming forward is immediately doubted. I keep reading how great of a human TSJ is (which is reasonable). Meanwhile people Google a DA and immediately start hammering home how off kilter she is. I can appreciate the loyalty to Illini sports but I think people need to take a step back and really think this through. After watching/listening to JW speak I believe one of one of two things, either TSJ withheld details and they took him for his word OR details were divulged and JW&CO decided that money and success were more important than setting a standard meanwhile hoping this would blow over.

TSJ shouldn't be allowed to play again for the U of I unless he is completely acquitted of all of charges. Plain and simple. As a man, father, and brother there is ZERO tolerance for this. From a misdemeanor to a felony. . . .zero tolerance.
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From the tone of your post, it’s unreasonable to report factual information about the District Attorney whose office has jurisdiction over Shannon’s case? Especially when those facts include a recommendation LAST WEEK to suspend her law license for a year (a pretty serious suspension).

You aren’t interested in those kinds of facts?
 
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Krombopulos_Michael said:
Some of the takes here are giving off these vibes. I know nothing of the real facts of the situation here (as do most on this board) and am truly hoping that TJ is innocent here. View attachment 29748
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That's really the best case scenario. It means that a young girl didn't get assaulted and the guy we've been cheering on for a year isn't a monster and it's not a stain on the reputation of the university.

If he did then he deserves to face the consequences of his actions but all of this conversation is really pretty useless until more information comes out..
 
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InDaAZ

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skyIdub said:
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Save this gif in your back pocket…
It will be quite useful on this board, especially in game threads. 🤪

btw, All in the Family was the BEST!
 
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cjw1901

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illini0440 said:
Well for one he was suspended indefinitely as soon as the charges were officially filed….2 do you really think they would play a kid if they didn’t know 100% he was innocent?

Josh said the DIA doesn’t conduct investigations on their own….and you all bought that line? Lol
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No, the charges were filed on 12/5. Shannon was suspended on 12/28, the day after the warrant was issued on 12/27. So, in fact, U of I did play Shannon in four basketball games (on 12/5, 12/9, 12/17, and 12/22) AFTER the charges were filed. Whitman's only reply to this in the press conference on 12/29 was that he hadn't seen the filed charging document, which seems kind of weak considering the University already knew he that LPD was talking to Shannon and his defense lawyers about an incident, and, that Shannon was the subject of that investigation which, in Whitman's terminology, involving "inappropriate touching".
 
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First of all people if you are ever in a criminal situation always remember Don’t talk to any Police officers without an attorney. They are not your friends. The police, The DA and the Judge are all on the same team trying to destroy your life. Never sign a plea bargain. Make them work for the conviction . If you are innocent take it to trial . I don’t care if it’s a felony you are looking at DO NOT take a plea . Only take the plea if you are willing to live with criminal charges on your record for the rest of your life without putting up a fight. Most of these District Attorney offices are lazy and stupid. 90 percent of the time they don’t want to go to trial .This is America as Childish Gambino would say. This is the country we live in . It’s guilty until proven innocent guilty. if you are accused of doing something you will have your life and reputation completely destroyed, everything taken away from you. People talk about due process but that’s a bunch of bullcrap. All it takes is a person making accusation against and you’re done. Anyone can be accused of doing anything. I’m glad Terrance got an attorney early. When everything gets cleared up and if Terrance is found not guilty of doing anything or the case gets dismissed what office at the University of Illinois can he go can to and get his good name and reputation back . What office can he go to and get his basketball season back. Every media outlet blasting all over the world he’s been charged with rape. People don’t care about Innocent until proven guilty today. If someone accuses you of something especially if it’s a woman people don’t care about then ge details or the truth. In their narrow minds you did it.
 
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Indyillini said:
Remember, Brad said Illinois has a solid policy on how to handle these situations. The way this should, & probably will go is that TSJ & his attorney will present the case to the unbiased Illinois committee . They will share that TSJ is innocent & what really happened. They will share that the LPD would be under political pressure to prosecute because of the “type of case this is” and let the jury decide.

They will share that TSJ should not be punished until he has had due process. Until then he is innocent and should not be punished. The committee should then waive the suspension & TSJ will continue to play until the legal process determines the level guilt.

That is what should happen & what will probably happen - unless there is some clear evidence of his guilt which I moderately doubt or TSJ would’ve been prosecuted a long time ago
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Respectfully, I think this scenario would never become reality in any stretch of the imagination. The University would never allow someone charged with rape or sexual assault of any kind to play for them. Even if he ends up proving innocence, he would not play while the charge stands. Way too much backlash and reputation damage there and academia. Charge would need to be dropped or dismissed for this to happen.

Not to mention this panel isn't made of up sports people, they don't have biases towards basketball in any way.
 
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blackdog

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cjw1901 said:
No, the charges were filed on 12/5. Shannon was suspended on 12/28, the day after the warrant was issued on 12/27. So, in fact, U of I did play Shannon in four basketball games (on 12/5, 12/9, 12/17, and 12/22) AFTER the charges were filed. Whitman's only reply to this in the press conference on 12/29 was that he hadn't seen the filed charging document, which seems kind of weak considering the University already knew he that LPD was talking to Shannon and his defense lawyers about an incident, and, that Shannon was the subject of that investigation which, in Whitman's terminology, involving "inappropriate touching".
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Really what it points to is what was alluded that LPD and the DA have not exactly been the most professional.
 
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illini0440

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cjw1901 said:
No, the charges were filed on 12/5. Shannon was suspended on 12/28, the day after the warrant was issued on 12/27. So, in fact, U of I did play Shannon in four basketball games (on 12/5, 12/9, 12/17, and 12/22) AFTER the charges were filed. Whitman's only reply to this in the press conference on 12/29 was that he hadn't seen the filed charging document, which seems kind of weak considering the University already knew he that LPD was talking to Shannon and his defense lawyers about an incident, and, that Shannon was the subject of that investigation which, in Whitman's terminology, involving "inappropriate touching".
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The complaint was filed Dec. 5th. They weren’t made aware that any criminals charges were coming until the afternoon of the 27th. Once Whitman got the phone call from Lawrence that and a warrant was issued for TJ everyone met and determined that that triggered the suspension in the athletics code. He asked Lawrence PD for more information before all of this and they didn’t provide any.
 
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cjw1901 said:
No, the charges were filed on 12/5. Shannon was suspended on 12/28, the day after the warrant was issued on 12/27. So, in fact, U of I did play Shannon in four basketball games (on 12/5, 12/9, 12/17, and 12/22) AFTER the charges were filed. Whitman's only reply to this in the press conference on 12/29 was that he hadn't seen the filed charging document, which seems kind of weak considering the University already knew he that LPD was talking to Shannon and his defense lawyers about an incident, and, that Shannon was the subject of that investigation which, in Whitman's terminology, involving "inappropriate touching".
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He said the warrant was when they became aware that Shannon was actually being charged. If someone files something but doesn't share that with the school how in the hell is that "weak"? I think you are looking to place blame for some reason on Whitman when the lack of communication from the prosecution/Lawrence police seems much more the issue. Whitman said in the press conference that the first time they saw the complaint was after the warrant was issued correct? Nothing indicates the school handled this poorly. So quit trying to create something that isn't there. You know NOTHING that indicates a poor response.
 
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